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Saturday, March 19, 2011

Muhammad can not be Kalki avatar

 
A relatively new propaganda seems to be on rage these days – that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) has been prophesised in Hindu Scriptures. This seems to be a great hit in major Islamic websites over last few years. It is also very useful in increasing the effectiveness of conversion programs driven by vision of making India a Muslim among country within next 5 years (as resolved by Maulana Abdullah Tariq recently on Peace TV).
And why shouldn’t it be effective. First, it is proved that the Kalki Avatar mentioned in Bhavishya Puran is none other than Prophet Muhammad. Second, it is also demonstrated that Vedas, the final authority in Hinduism, themselves sang praise of Prophet Muhammad.
Now the entry barriers for a Hindu in embracing Islam are suddenly evaporated!
All that a devout Hindu is doing now is accepting the directions of his own religion with further sincerity.
Thus, when a close friend of mine, who is an expert in Islam, visited a prominent temple in the heart of Lucknow, he was greeted by the head priest. He could see marks on forehead of the priest. When discussions continued on matter of religion, the priest explained to him how Prophet is the final goal for every Hindu and how Islam alone can save humanity.
Now my friend realized that the mark on the head was out of 5 times of daily prayer in submission to the legend who has been prophesised in Hindu Scriptures! And this is the new direction of Islamic conversion techniques that he has been witnessing.
In this series, we shall critically analyze the claims of this propaganda and bring truth to the fore.
The founder of this hypothesis is none other than the stage-performer Dr Zakir Naik who can recite page number, chapter number and verse number for any book on earth. His style is so hypnotic and entertaining that the audience no more has the space to check relevance of his references. The same style is evident in his writing as well, which form the basis of his memorized speeches.
And now, the confused Muslim youth has found a new passion that confirms their seat in Paradise. They would simply copy-paste from his articles and spread the good word around on internet forums, blogs and social networking sites. The print outs are circulated in colleges and schools. This is often very effective against certain less-well-versed Hindus who fall under the ploy.
  
(www.agniveer.com)
Many hindu sites have debunked the lies of dr.zakir naik. I will debunk his claim in a different way. I will show you the difference between prophet muhammad and kalki avater. If it is proven both of them are differnt any rational mind can understand that Muhammad can not be Kalki avater.
 
Difference between Mohammad and Kalki:

1. Mohammad lost his father before birth and kalki will lost his father after his birth

prove:
द्वादश्यां शुक्ल-पक्षस्य माधवे मासि माधवम्।

जातं ददृशतुः पुत्रं पितरौ हृष्ट-मानसौ।। (1:2:15 Kalki Purna)

 द्वादश्यां - द्वा dvA (two) + दश्यां dashya (tens/10's) meaning 20 शुक्ल-पक्षस्य - शुक्ल Shukla (bright) + पक्षस्य(pakshaya) parts (the first part of the moon cycle) + माधवे madhva is Hindu month of Chaitra (First day of Chaitra is when Lor...d Brahma created the universe) March/April + मासि masi (month of) + माधवम् madhavam it is a point of reference to the birthday of Lord Krishna celebrated as Krishna Janmashtami which is observed on the eighth day of the dark half or Krishna Paksha of the month of Bhaadra (parts of August and september).
Alternatively
द्वादश्यां - द्वा dvA (two) + दश्यां dashya (tens/10's) meaning 12 शुक्ल-पक्षस्य - शुक्ल Shukla (bright) + पक्षस्य(pakshaya) parts (the first part of the moon cycle) + माधवे madhva is hindu month of Chaitra[10] (First day of Chaitra is when Lord Brahma created the universe, Hindu new year starts) March/April + मासि masi (month of) + माधवम् Lord Krishna (as Kalki) arrived.
जातं jatam (born - brought into existence) + ददृशतुः dadastu (then) + पुत्रं putram (a son) + पितरौ pitarau (parents [were]) + हृष्ट hrshta (thrilling with rapture, rejoiced, pleased, glad, merry) + मानसौ manasau (mental feeling). Twenty, f...irst fortnights of the moon cycles from the birthday of Krishna (Krishna Janmashtami - Bhaadra/August) then in the month of Chaitra (March/April) the father was mentally overwhelmed by the son being born. This points to the sun sign of Aries.
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12th of the first part of the moon cycle in the month of Chaitra (March/April, Hindu new year) Lord Krishna (as Kalki) arrived then the father was mentally overwhelmed by the son being born This also points to the sun sign of Aries. In Chaitra month, the fifteen days in Shukla paksha (first fortnight / first half of the month) are dedicated to fifteen gods or deities. Each day of Chaitra month is dedicated to each God. People worship a God on each day, the 12th day (Chaitra Dwadashi) is dedicated to Lord Sri Maha Vishnu.
So it is clearly mentioned in this prophecy that when Kalki Avatar will be born his parents will be alive..whereas when muhammad was born his father was history! 
 
2. Marriage:
  Kalki Purana:
मत्तो विद्यां शिवाद् अस्त्रं लब्ध्वा वेद-मयं शुकम्।
सिंहले च प्रियां पद्मां धर्मान् संस्थापयिष्यसि।। 1:3:9 ततो दिग्-विजये भूपान् धर्म-हीनान् कलि-प्रियान्।
निगृह्य बौद्धान् देवापिं मरुञ् च स्थापयिष्यसि।। 1:3:10 श्रुत्वेति वचनं कल्किः शुकेन सहितो मुदा।
जगाम त्वरितो ऽश्वेन शिव-दत्तेन तन्मनाः।। 2:1:39 समुद्र-पारम् अमलं सिंहलं जलसंकुलम्। («=सिंहलद्वीप»)
नाना-विमान-बहुलं भास्वरं मणि-काञ्चनैः।। 2:1:40 प्रासादसदनाग्रेषु पताका-तोरणाकुलम्।
श्रेणी-सभा-पणाट्ताल-पुर-गोपुर-मण्दितम्।। 2:1:41
The beloved of Kalki is "पद्मां" "Padma" (beloved of the "lotus") who lives at द्वीप dweep (island) सिंहले Sinhale (not Sri Lanka because Sri Lanka was known at the time as "Lanka" in MahaBaratha)(सिंह shiha (Lion) + ले(of))= "the island of the lion"(1:3:9).
The spotless/clean land of the lion one which is surrouned by a excellent/supreme ocean at the other side of this ocean. (Line 1 2:1:40).
Abundance of different kinds of chariot of the gods (Air-Crafts) brilliant wealth and prosperity.(Line 2 2:1:40).



The wife of Kalki is named Padma who lives in Sinhala, which is commonly known as Sri Lanka. However, as I mentioned before, this may be an allegorical reference to an island nation, separate from his own country. In his endeavour to conquer the "Buddhists" and other kings, he will be assisted by two kings allied to him, apart from the king of the country in which he is born to and many other friends.
 
Lets see how many wives Mohammad had? :
Muhammad's wives were the eleven women married to the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Muslims refer to them as Mothers of the Believers (Arabic: Ummahāt ul-Muʾminīn). Muslims use the term prominently before or after referring to them as a sign of respect. The term is derived from Qur'an 33:6:
The Prophet is closer to the believers than their selves, and his wives are (as) their mothers.
Muhammad's life is traditionally delineated as two epochs: pre-hijra (emigration) in Mecca, a city in northern Arabia, from the year 570 to 622, and post-hijra in Medina, from 622 until his death in 632. All but two of his marriages were contracted after the Hijra (migration to Medina).


Refearance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad%27s_wives
Did muhammad had any wife from sinhala?
Did muhammad had only one wife?   
 
 Then How can Mohammad be Lord Kalki?
 
 
3. Aeroplane: 
 
This island (Sinhala) is situated on the other side of the shore. The island has pure water and is full of people. Full of various types of Aircrafts and decorated with jewellery. The beauty of the island is enhanced by huge buildings and flags and gates decorated in front of them.
~ Kalki Purana, II[1],  Verses 39, 40, 41
The interesting part of the description of the island where Kalki's wife-to-be stays is that apart from the huge buildings that the island city has, its sky is also full of Aircrafts! (called Vimana in Indian literature).
Can any one tell me was there any aircraft during the time of Mohammad?

4. Kalki's war with China (or maybe, North Korea) 

 
The great conqueror, Kalki then paid homage to his father and started for conquering Kikatpur with his army. The Buddhists live in that city. The residents of that city do not worship God or their forefathers. They do not fear after-life. Other than the body, they do not believe in any soul. They do not have any pride in their lineage or in their race; money, marriage etc. are insignificant to them. People of that place eat and drink a variety of things. When Jin (the leader) heard that Kalki has come to fight them, he gathered a huge army and went out of the city to fight Him.
~ Kalki Purana, II[6], Verses 40 to 44
Although the city of Kikatpur is unidentified, yet it is specified that "Buddhists" live there. But the descriptions of the belief of those people are anything but Buddhist and are more in consonance with the ideology of the Communists, i.e. people who do not worship God, do not believe in after-life, soul, race and the significance of wealth and give the collective more importance than the individual. The choice of foods of the Chinese (or Koreans) are also considered exotic in other parts of the world. Interestingly, the name of the leader is also mentioned as "Jin". As we all know, Jin, Xin or Xian are very common names among the Chinese. On 15th March 2003 the Chinese Communist Party elected Hu Jintao as the new President of China. By religion, China (or Korea) is predominantly Buddhist, although no religion is allowed to be openly practiced under the Communist rule. Thus the description of the belief of the people and their religion are not contradictory but very appropriate.
He (Jin) took up various types of arms and started war with Kalki. Even the Gods were surprised by the techniques of war adopted by Jin. Jin injured Kalki's horse with a javelin and made him disoriented and unconscious and attempted to take him away, but could not lift him...On seeing that, King Vishakhjupa got angry and encountered Jin and picked up unconscious Kalki in his own chariot. Kalki regained his consciousness in a while and encouraged his soldiers; following that, he rushed towards Jin after getting down from the chariot of Vishakhjupa.
~ Kalki Purana, II[7], Verses 5, 6, 8, 9
It seems that Jin was not a mean enemy and Kalki did not have a smooth ride either and had his moments of ups and downs. Of course this is what is expected if a western force confronts the mighty Chinese army, the biggest in the world in terms of numbers.
Soon, Garga (associate of Kalki) and his army killed 6000 Buddhist soldiers. Bharga and his soldiers killed and injured 11 million enemy soldiers and his mighty allies killed 2500 of them. Kobi along with his sons killed 2 million enemy soldiers, Pragya killed 1 million and Sumantu killed 5 million soldiers.
~ Kalki Purana, II[7], Verses 5, 6, 8, 9
It seems that Kalki and his allies kill or injure an army which is almost 20 million strong. An army of this huge proportions can only be assembled by a country like China and its allies. Thus, the attack on the city of Kikatpur does not merely represent an attack on a city but on a country, probably in alliance with others.
Soon Kalki smiled and said unto Jin - O Sinner ! Don't flee but come and face me...Soon your body will be pierced with my arrows. Soon you shall depart from this world. Then, no one will go along with you. So, you and your allies surrender before me. On hearing the words of Kalki, mighty Jin said "The fate can never be seen. I am a materialist, Buddhist. Nothing but the perceptible are accepted by us. The unseen and the imperceptible are banished by us. Hence your effort is fruitless. Even if you are Godly, I am before you; see if you manage to kill me. In that event, will the Buddhists forgive you?
~ Kalki Purana, II[7], Verses 15 to 18
Once again, the ideology of Jin is apparent from his own words. This is contrary to what the Buddhists profess - Buddhists believe in fate, soul and rebirth like the Hindus. But this "Buddhist" does not believe in fate or the imperceptible and this ideology is not the ideology of any religion, but that of Communism. But for communism, China would have been the world's largest Buddhist country and its people, at least in private, still follow the religion. Verse 26 describes the death of Jin in the hands of Kalki. The next few verses describe the battle between Suddhodhan, the brother of Jin and the forces of Kalki, in which the former manage to inflict some heavy damages on the forces of Kalki, using, among other things an weapon if illusion (Maya). Ultimately Kalki managed to defeat the Buddhist forces who either died, lay injured or fled the battlefield.

But it was not the end of the war yet. On the verge of the defeat of the "Buddhist" army, their womenfolk gathered to battle Kalki and his allies. This is quite unprecedented in the annals of Hindu epics or for that matter, history and stories from anywhere in the world.
The wives of the Buddhists, gathered for battle riding on chariots, birds, horses, camels and bulls to defend their husbands. These beautiful, powerful young ladies devoted to their husbands did not seek the shelter of their children. These glorious women, dressed in battle-gear and various jewellery came to the battlefield armed with swords, power-weapons, arrows and javelins. In their hands were heavenly rings. These beautiful women consisted of hair dressers, women devoted to husbands (house-wives) and even prostitutes. These women, troubled by the death of their husbands and fathers came forth to fight the army of Kalki. People even care to protect objects like soil, ashes, wood etc. Therefore, how can these women tolerate the death of their husbands in their presence? The womenfolk of the Buddhists, seeing their husbands injured and troubled came in front of them and started to fight the soldiers of Kalki. Seeing the women take to battle, the soldiers of Kalki were amazed and came to Kalki to inform him about the whole matter in details. Hearing this, Kalki, clever as he is, arrived there on a chariot accompanied by his allies and army with a cheerful mind. Seeing the women astride in various types of vehicles, standing in formations, Kalki started saying "Ladies, please hear what I have to say. It is against the principles for men to fight against women..."
~ Kalki Purana, III[1], Verses 11 to 20
We can guess that Kalki indulged in intense diplomacy to dissuade the women from fighting. Kalki Purana describes in the next few verses the words of Kalki which can be called the unashamed flattery of the women by Kalki. Though not quite relevant, it will show that the Kalki Purana is not simply a text of war and conquest and gloom and doom that we associate these times with. Rather, it shows the human and the spiritual aspects of the whole war.
...On your beautiful moon-like face, falls the locks of fine hair. Everyone's mind become cheerful on seeing this. Which man can hit on such a face? On these beautiful faces are a pair of eyes like lotus with long eyelashes and dark pupil. Which man can hit such a face? Your breasts are decorated like the necklace of Shiva. Even the pride of the cupid gets hurt on seeing this. Which man can hit on such a place? Which man can hit the spotless face of a woman on which play the locks of fine hairs from the head? Which man can hit your slim waists weighed down by breasts and decorated by very fine body-hair? Can any man shoot an arrow in your eye-soothing and feminine pubic area covered by fine hair and untouched by sin? Hearing these words of Kalki, the infidel-women smiled and said - "Sir !  When our husbands died in your hand, we too have died". Saying this, the women prepared to kill Kalki.
~ Kalki Purana, III[1], Verses 21 to 27
All such attempts of eulogizing femininity by Kalki cut no ice with the women. At this point of time however, a miracle happened which persuaded the women from fighting Kalki :
...However the weapons remained in their hands. The various weapons metamorphosed and stood before the infidel-women decorated in gold and said "Ladies! Do ye know Kalki as the Supreme God, empowered by whom we take the lives of living beings. Have confidence in our words. On His command we propagate and on his glory we have attained various forms and by His mercy we have become renowned. By His empowerment does the five elements carry out their own actions. He is the Supreme Being Himself. Under His wishes has the nature created the whole Universe. The creation and the continuity of the creation is nothing but His action. He is the Beginning and the End, from Him arise all the holy things in the world. It is He, who is our husband, our wife, son, friend and relative. From Him comes forth all these illusion-like happenings. Those who know that life and death are nothing but coming and going under the influence of love, affection and fondness, those who are devoid of any feelings of anger and hate, who are the devotees of Kalki, they know the above illusion-like happenings as false. How was Time created? Where does death come from? Who is Yama (Death incarnate and lord of the underworld)? Who are the Gods? By His illusion, it is Kalki who has become many. O Ladies! We are not weapons and no one gets hurt by us. He is the weapon and it is he who hits. These distinctions are nothing but the illusion (Maya) created by the Supreme Being. ...We cannot hit the devotees of Kalki. Hearing the words of the weapons, the women were surprised. They shed their illusion of attachment and came to seek Kalki.
 ~ Kalki Purana, III[1], Verses 27 to 39
Whether it was a miracle or diplomacy, the end result was that the Buddhist women did not fight Kalki's army, thus averting what could have been the only war between a male and a female army. After the war and victory, Kalki returned from Kikatpur with his army.




After reading these texts its obiviously clear its a scene of huge war perhaps a world war. Question arises: 

1. Did muhammad fight against Buddhists? He fought against pagans and jews. 
2. Did muhammad had any enemy named Jin? no. 
3. Did muhammad and his allies kill or injure an army which is almost 20 million strong? The answer is no. 




 Then How can Mohammad be Lord Kalki?

188 comments:

  1. May peace be on you.....

    You are right that there are many things which do not match with prophet muhammad(pbuh) as kalki avatar but you failed to realise that we do not believe that Hindu scriptures are 100% word of God; may be some parts are. As Quran said there were many revelations before it but they were not preserved in its pure form coz they were meant for that group of people and for that period only. Acc. to Swammi Vivekanda, Vedas are not preserved in pure form. So, may be corrupted or some parts missed or added etc...You also cannot prove by origin and history that Vedas, puranas are word of God. There are many variations among scholars. So, whatever matches with Qur'an we have no objection to accept; but not those part which do not match. And if you know about hindu scriptures, it is very easy to prove as not word of God....

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    1. Dear Abdullah
      Please get out of this discussion and stay in peace in your Quaranic Hell...No Quran reading Muslim can ever understand Humanity...The only hope of this world is the annihilation of the Satanic cult , promoted by Mohammad

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    2. When it comes to other sciptures u say it,s corrupted but when it,s come to quran u will say it,s not corrupted why?

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    3. i ever heard that hindu have 3333333 god..how can hindu is a true religion which have a million of god..which one do you worship..?? siva, brahma, vishnu?? all religion in the world have at least 3 god...but only one religion have one god..Allah that is Islam..

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    4. brother raj try to understand that the quran is the final revelation from one almighty god. and its proved.quran itself several times said that it is from one god and it is the final one. thats why we muslims believe in it.can you ever say that it is mentioned in your holy books that it is the final one.after that no books will come.no you will never be able to say.

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    5. Some one above said "i ever heard that hindu have 3333333 god.." .. Correction it's different forms of single god...Just different names...Implies Hinduism has only one god...

      *In Bhagavath geetha God says "One can reach me through any forms" ...It implies No problem which religion you follow and what name you give to the one and only almighty god...As long as you are true.. You will reach him.

      **As per Quran god says "One can reach me only through islam"...
      It implies Quran is man made.

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    6. then who is the one god of both hindus and muslims?

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    7. ME, I am, I am the anonymous the greatest god ever

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    8. no quran is not man made
      it says one can reach to god through islam
      and islam means the faith....the one who has faith in god will reach to him....why u people always take the meaning as words....coz words changes with language....
      wen u say god in english, bhagvan in hindi, dev in marathi and allah in arabic.....the meaning is same....

      and one who blames quran shud read it first then he will find the quran is the book of peace which only teaches peace.....

      and wat vedas says is same mentioned in quran..
      veda says ekam advaytyam bhahmha- means god is one. then where did all other god and goddess came from... its all imagined by human.

      also vedas says that na tasya pratima asti- god has no image or a specific form.
      then how can we say that he has body like humas....
      and why he will have human like body/bodies why not like other animals coz he is the god for them also....

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    9. So whatr wrong in that
      Y u always cring for our so many gods.. Its our proud to hv so many gods n we worship them whole heartly..hinduism has many visions thats its richest n broadness n all hv liberty to worship he likes , ways.. thats makes hinduism mother of wolds all religion.. a humanity religion bt not narrow like islam...lol

      Now.. What u muslims hv achievd whorshiping only one god..???

      Only terrorism n voilence...

      Hving only one god allah, still u kill shiya, ahmedi , sufis n fell proud in killing them in d name of ONE GOD ALLAH...

      Hv u evn heard any hindu figthing for his god....????????

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    10. When allah ddnt knew d half of d earth n ddnt mention in perfact book ..lol.. Kuran.. Than how cn muslim claim him as creator..

      Lol..
      Kuran n allah just revolvd around arabs n enemys christns n jews.. They even ddnt knew greatst religion hinduism n bouddh half of popullation of d earth..,

      Kuran is just d copy paste of visions of hindus book vedas writn thousands year bfor kuran .. Search in google for PROOF...N islam fallowd vedas..

      kuarn is not orignal ..
      Fake n bigest liers..

      HINDUISM IS D OLDEST N ORIGIN OF ALL D RELIGIONS.. It teachs love n respect to all gods.. Its d only humanity..

      God shiva bless u

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    11. ask to zokar nayalk n MUSLIMS ....if why D creator of earth allah, even ddnt knew d existance india hindus, china bauddha, indonesia hindus , japan.. N whole asia,

      When allah ddnt knew d half of d earth n ddnt mention in perfact book ..lol.. Kuran.. Than how cn muslim claim him as creator..

      Lol..
      Kuran n allah just revolvd around arabs n enemys christns n jews.. They even ddnt knew greatst religion hinduism n bouddh half of popullation of d earth..,

      Kuran is just d copy paste of visions of hindus book vedas writn thousands year bfor kuran .. Search in google for PROOF...N islam fallowd vedas..

      kuarn is not orignal ..
      Fake n bigest liers..

      HINDUISM IS D OLDEST N ORIGIN OF ALL D RELIGIONS.. It teachs love n respect to all gods.. Its d only humanity..

      God shiva bless u all

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    12. quran could be corrupted and actually there have been changes in quran but only small and the puranas are defintley not word of god but just stories/philisophies and vedas are not corrupted they are protected

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    13. even quoran was invented by mohammed... and he just told some angel gabriel was talking to him.. but angels would talk about love.. quoran is talking about politics, about cruel god, ageinst love... so is made by a human, who just wanted many woman, political fame..etc.. so all books r the same... god is beyond human books .. he is self reveling to every real human who is not yet contaminated by eny religion.

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    14. Kindly note that the kalki avatar as muhammad was written by a great scholar-Pt Ved Prakash who himself had great knowledge of the vedas

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    15. kindly note that
      1) Kalki avatar is himself lord Vishnu wheares Prophet Muhammad was a Prophet( a person) not a God.
      2) Prophet Muhammad was a Cow eater - Cow is halal in Islam wheares Hindu Gods Ram, Krishna , Budda were vegetarian. and No Hindu God will give permission to eat cow.
      3)Kalki avatar will happen when the Kalyug effect is at peak. It will be happening after 5000 years from Buddha. So still we are in amidst of Kalyug.
      4) No Hindu Gods have prescribed their followers to kill non- believers. So Muhammad is definetely not Kalki Avatar.
      5) IF we take Dr zakir naik's statement as true. Like Muhammad is Avatar of lord vishnu then it means that Islam is a sect of Hinduism and Allah ( the one who Muhammad worshipped) will be either lord Shiva or Goddess Durga. Now it is not possible as Islam is believed to be a religion by itself .
      4) Hindu Gods do not die until their work/task for which they are descended is complete- eg RAma , krishna, Buddha. They died/ left earth only when their life purpose was over completely. Prophet Muhammad died very early even without naming his heir.
      5) Hindu gods have great powers, divine knowledge whearas Mumhammd knowledge was enriched by Gabriel.
      6) Some verses of the holy Quran were influenced by satan. If Prophet Muhamad was God himself it would not have happened.

      So hence proved that Prophet muhammad was a person like us who was choosen by Allah. But he has no connection with Lord Vishnu or Kalki.

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    16. The word Bhagwan is derived from the Sanskrit word Bhaga and vant which means a blessed one or someone superior, not necessarily the supreme being(i.e. God or Vishnu or Brahma or Shiva). It is written in Upanishad that God has no image.Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva are the three faces of God.This means that he is Brahma(creator), he is Vishnu(sustainer) and he is Shiva(destroyer).The verses of Vedas are mostly metaphors.God is One and formless and has no image. Please visit www.vedmandir.com to have more information on Vedas.
      And reply to me if you disagree with me.

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    17. And those who believe that Quran was invented by Mohammed who knew neither reading nor writing please search for Scientific miracles of Quran on the web.

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    18. brothers we invite you to study the truth,study what islam is,and be in the right path towards GOD.
      islam is not a religion of propet mohammed.but a religion since time immemorial.
      it is there since man come to foot on earth.
      adam noha moses abraham ishak jesus and finally prophet mohamed (peace be upon them all) are all mightiest messengers of allah,revealing the same truth "GOD IS ONE AND ONLY ONE AND WE HAVE TO PRAY TO THE ONE ONLY ONE" thats what we muslims are telling.there were so many revealations from god amoung include bible,taura,..and may be vedas,...but people made corruptions and additions to it and therefore mistakes get included in these scrptures and finally god sends quran and take its protection, he even says that nobody can destroy the whole quran from world and its a challenge.now the people can study islam from the scriptures the QURAN(words of allah)and the SUNNAH(the hadith,the description about the life of prophet).it is very clear cut from proof in different feilds of study,
      so i invite you to study first and beleive the truth and get changed .it is not me to really open your heart .iam just invitng and allah(the god almighty) is the one who opens the hearts.so brothers try to understand the truth of islam,the religion of god and the truth of the endless real life in paradise and not in hell.
      my email:jamsheed2010@gmail.com

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    19. alhamdulillah, great reply abdulla bhai

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    20. A few facts about Islam's end times figures, the Mahdi and the Muslim version of Jesus,

      Bible: The antichrist is an unparalleled political, military, and religious leader that will emerge in the last days.

      Islam: The Mahdi is an unparalleled political, military, and religious leader that will emerge in the last days.

      Bible: The False Prophet is a secondary prominent figure that will emerge in the last days who will support the antichrist.

      Islam: The Muslim Jesus is a secondary prominent figure that will emerge in the last days who will support the Mahdi.

      Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will have a powerful army that will do great damage to the earth in an effort to subdue every nation and dominate the world.

      Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will have a powerful army that will attempt to control every nation of the earth and dominate the world.

      Bible: The Antichrist and False Prophet establish a new world order.

      Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus establish a new world order.

      Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet institute new laws for the whole earth.

      Islam:The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus institute Islamic law all over the earth.

      Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will both be powerful religious leaders who will atempt to institute a universal world religion.

      Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will institute Islam as the only religion on the earth.

      Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will execute anyone who does not submit to their world religion.

      Islam: Likewise, the Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will execute anyone who does not submit to Islam.

      Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will specifically use beheading as the primary means of execution for nonconfonformists.

      Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will use the islamic practice of beheading for executions.

      Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will have a specific agenda to kill as many Jews as possible.

      Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will kill as many Jews as possible, until only a few are left hiding behind rocks and trees.

      Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will attack to conquer and seize Jerusalem.

      Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will attack to reconquer and seize Jerusalem for Islam.

      Bible: The Antichrist will set himself up in the Jewish Temple as his seat of authority.

      Islam: The Mahdi will establish the Islamic caliphate from Jerusalem.

      Bible: The Antichrist is described as riding on a white horse in the Book of Revelation (Chapter 6)

      Islam: The Mahdi is described as riding on a white horse (ironically in the same verse).

      Bible: The Antichrist is said to make a peace treaty with Israel for seven years.

      Islam: The Mahdi is said to make a peace treaty through a Jew (specifically a Levite) for exactly seven years.

      Bible: The spirit of antichrist specifically denies the most unique and central doctrines of Christianity, namely the Trinity, the incarnation, and the substitutionary death of Jesus on the cross.

      Islam: Islam doctrinally and spiritually specifically denies the most unique and central doctrines of Christianity, namely the Trinity, the incarnation, and the substitutionary death of Jesus on the cross.

      Bible: The specific nations pictured in the Bible as part of the final empire of the Antichrist are all Islamic nations.

      Islam: All Muslims are commanded to give their allegiance to the Mahdi as the final caliph and imam (leader) of Islam.

      Bible: From the Bible and history we learn that the final Antichrist empire will be a revived version of the empire that succeeds the Roman Empire.

      Islam: The empire that succeeded the Roman/Byzantine empire was the Islamic Ottoman empire.

      Bible: When the Antichrist emerges, a system will already exist that is poised to receive him as a savior and to give allegiance to him.

      Islam: Islam is already the second-largest religion and will at present growth rates become the largest religion within a few decades. Islam awaits the coming of the Mahdi with universal anticipation.

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    21. Islam is nothing more than a Satanic counterfeit of a religion masquerading as an Abrahamic religion. A dog has a better shot of getting into heaven than someone who accepts the spirit of the Antichrist as Islam's Mahdi into their heart.

      You should seriously reconsider preaching the lie that is Islam. Hinduism is closer to the truth than Islam becaue whether you like hearing this or not Jesus is an avatar of Vishnu. Dying on the cross was part of Kalki's severe penance. Dying as Al-Masih Ad-Dajjal is part of fulfilling parts of the scripture that Jesus Christ did not, such as Daniel 9:26 "After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed." Amazingly Al-Masih Ad-Dajjal is put to death after one year one month one week and thirty seven days, which guess what? That is exactly 62 weeks or sevens. He will have a shrivled right foot and his hair will not be curly and he will have his eye gouged out in a fight over the avatar of Lakshmi, Padma. Call me crazy now, but don't call on Jesus Christ to save you when Kalki returns after his severe penance.

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  2. Dear Abdullah.
    Peace be upon you too.

    //
    You are right that there are many things which do not match with prophet muhammad(pbuh) as kalki avatar but you failed to realise that we do not believe that Hindu scriptures are 100% word of God; may be some parts are.//

    Old Logic by Zakir Naik. Then how do you know the thing matches are word of GOD? Double hypocracy........

    //Acc. to Swammi Vivekanda, Vedas are not preserved in pure form. So, may be corrupted or some parts missed or added etc..//

    If this is indeed written by Swami Vivekananda, it only shows that he had not studied Vedas properly and his thoughts on Vedas were influenced by western indologists. It also shows that every human being, howsomuch great may have imperfections. So one should not accept anyone blindly and instead apply her own analytical faculty to discover the truth.

    While we respect Swami Vivekananda as a charismatic personality, powerful orator and impressive writer on neo-Vedanta, he is not an authority for us in matters of Vedas. It seems that Swami Vivekananda due to his lack of study of Vedas coupled with bias towards meat made this statement, if at all he stated so.

    //You also cannot prove by origin and history that Vedas, puranas are word of God. There are many variations among scholars. So, whatever matches with Qur'an we have no objection to accept; but not those part which do not match. And if you know about hindu scriptures, it is very easy to prove as not word of God.... //

    Quran is a man made bogus book
    http://hindurevolution.blogspot.com/2011/05/miracle-of-islam-unchangeable-quran.html

    Vedas are the word of GOD and it is perfectly preserved........

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    1. Dear Hindurevolution,

      The part which matches with the Quran, we muslims believe and take that as the word of God. No body is forcing the non-muslims to believe that. Such as if u being a follower of Hinduism take Vedas as an authentic source, then the reference from that would be also authentic to u. Right??? So Mr. Abdullah was referring that. So there is no double standard here.

      I am not a scholar of hindu scriptures and the interpretation which u gave regarding kalki avatar, it is your interpretation and we all are entitled to give our opinions. So no argument in that issue. But one thing I would say, u have a very wrong idea about the intention of muslims here. Their intention is not to convert non-muslims which is in this case the hindus. What we believe to be true, it is our duty to spread that. It is up to the people to except or reject. So having an idea that we want to convert (only) all the hindus is probably a misunderstanding. Because it is not our duty to give guidance. The Guidance will be provided by Allah. Our duty is to only to let know people.

      I respect ur choice and opinion in Vedas and thus I would not fight to disprove its authenticity nor would I try and prove Quran's authenticity. Because this would give rise to an never ending argument. And to be honest, Islam teaches us not to abuse the gods of the non-muslims since lest in ignorance they will abuse Allah. Therefore, I would not like to give a similar statement on Vedas which u stated for The Quran.

      I am firm believer of Islam and everything associated to its philosophy. The truth will be revealed in time. The Last Day of Judgement will surely extinguish all the misconceptions. And inshAllah on that very day I pray that Allah lets us meet and we can talk about the same topic. Although at that time these arguments will be useless but nevertheless.

      May Allah give Guidance to all of us.

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    2. Dr Zakir Naik will teel the nom muslims immediatley will u convert urself int islam why why he not telling the peopel that the Hindu,s to folow veda.s and follow one God why he intersted in converting to Isla Humanity has no religion

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    3. 'Humanity has no religion'...then are you atheis???

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    4. "'Humanity has no religion'...then are you atheis???"
      One of the foolish comment I ever read.
      Please learn logic before you comment.

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    5. Dear Anonymous first one.. If u believe that the matching things alone are the word of God & rest are corrupted..then its not double standard its called as Confirmation Bias...

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    6. When Zakir Naik asks for converting to Islam, why people accept it. The reason is that the person got convinced that Islam is the true religion today. Otherwise he/she can refuse. Zakir will not do anything to that person. It is Allah who give guidance. Believe in Islam if you are 100% convinced only. Islam doesn't guarantee any reward in this world for your conversion. You will of course get into heaven if you die as a Muslim. It is our duty to inform our Hindu brothers. Otherwise you guys will blame us on Judgement day in front of God (Allah in Arabic)

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    7. You watch a movie and then write about it completely in a book. Now another person reads your book and will he get the same effect of watching the movie by reading your book? No never...

      Languages have limitation all the scriptures which is written using languages is incomplete due to its inherent limitation...hence for true growth we need to go beyond the scriptures to understand the real truth.

      Do you still believe in Adam & Eve Story or Darwin's Theory of evolution?
      Do you still believe that Earth is flat or Earth is round?
      Do you still believe Man was made out of clay & water or do you believe matter was made from Boson Particles (God particles as Science calls it)?

      To say a scripture is word of God and in saying so ..we find God was mistaken at many places..does not go well...it's common sense..but if you are brain washed to believe so then its your problem ...that is keeping the truth away from you..

      Belief is different from truth...A belief can be created in a person..but truth is truth..It was believed Earth was flat..but the truth was Earth is round...A human can be programmed to believe any thing...Psychology proves it can be done..

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  3. Koran,cannot be word of God,because Muslims,bully and murder people all over the world.Koran always tell Muslims to cut off fingers,hands,legs and even necks of people!Muslims always say they are about PEACE but,they leave everything and everyone in PIECES.The Koran,Islam and Muslims are BARBARIC.

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    1. dear anonymous ,
      you cannot judge a religion by its followers , you judge it by its teachings , for example , you cannot judge India by its notorious gangster politicians , every community has its black sheep ,if you truly want to know about the truth read the Qur'an from start to end and ponder upon each verse . Regarding your comment on Qur'an teaches to cut off hands etc. Quote a verse from the Qur'an to prove that it commands one to carry out such a task against an innocent person .
      The punishment you are talking about is for those who have committed the crime of terrorism (Qur'an 5:33). the verse immediately before this says "...whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind....."(Qur'an 5:32). The Qur'an does not promote violence , it is the word of God . Islam teaches peace and is the religion of truth . Not one verse in the Qur'an contradicts another and not one verse of the Qur'an contradicts science .May Allah guide you unto all truth .

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    2. there is none god except allah bhagvad gita too saying oneness of god then why hindus worshipping millions of god kalki avatar(muhammad) has came already follow him.

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    3. muhhamad is a donkey and u fool people worship a donkey

      if u worship my banke bihari u will be respected and have a happy life
      and if u donot then tere is i parsuram to kill u all the muslims and shit on ur quran

      i promise my hindus that after 50 years i will be the greatest reason for the extincense of muslim and help lord Kalki who is not mohhamad

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    4. Languages have limitation all the scriptures which is written using languages is incomplete due to its inherent limitation...hence for true growth we need to go beyond the scriptures to understand the real truth.

      Do you still believe in Adam & Eve Story or Darwin's Theory of evolution?
      Do you still believe that Earth is flat or Earth is round?
      Do you still believe Man was made out of clay & water or do you believe matter was made from Boson Particles (God particles as Science calls it)?

      To say a scripture is word of God and in saying so ..we find God was mistaken at many places..does not go well...it's common sense..but if you are brain washed to believe so then its your problem ...that is keeping the truth away from you..

      Belief is different from truth...A belief can be created in a person..but truth is truth..It was believed Earth was flat..but the truth was Earth is round...A human can be programmed to believe any thing...Psychology proves it can be done..

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  4. Dear Hindu revolution,

    Why you are surrewndering to Mr.Abdullah on his remarks on Swami vivekananda on vedas. Before you comment on waht he said, think twice or it shows your lack of understanding on Swami vevekananda.

    Quran - Its a Political Ideology to capture the world. Read Hadith, Sura....

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  5. Abdullah Wrote

    Acc. to Swammi Vivekanda, Vedas are not preserved in pure form. So, may be corrupted or some parts missed or added etc..

    I replied.........

    If this is indeed written by Swami Vivekananda, it only shows that he had not studied Vedas properly and his thoughts on Vedas were influenced by western indologists. It also shows that every human being, howsomuch great may have imperfections. So one should not accept anyone blindly and instead apply her own analytical faculty to discover the truth.

    While we respect Swami Vivekananda as a charismatic personality, powerful orator and impressive writer on neo-Vedanta, he is not an authority for us in matters of Vedas. It seems that Swami Vivekananda due to his lack of study of Vedas coupled with bias towards meat made this statement, if at all he stated so.


    WHATS WRONG WITH IT?

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  6. Zakir Naik and his blind followers have a stupid logic. They claim that only those parts of the Hindu scriptures which match with the Koran are authentic and the remaining parts are corrupted or man made. Wow! How convenient. isn't it?

    Naik doesn't realize that the Hindu scriptures are not like bible and koran which can be read and understood by us directly. Vedic scriptures can and should be understood only by sitting at the feet of a God realized Guru.

    Naik's lies are becoming more and more difficult to tolerate now.

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    1. Agreed.
      Most of the comments are really funny as well.
      But at the time he argu like he is perfect.
      If you replay the video you will find how many mistakes and fake statements he makes.

      Bad thing is many ordinary people go and argu with him in public and get panic and finally get converted.
      Even he provide a 100% false fake answer.

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  7. The Hindu lover12/18/2011 10:29:00 AM

    Respected Hindurevolution Sir,

    Thanks for this excellent and critical analysis. I appreciate that someone finally arrived to expose the fraud and finally eliminate the lie.

    I would like to seek request to promote your this blog via my website. Can I do that? It would be only for the purpose of saving the truth. Let me know whether am I permitted. Thanks

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    1. You are most welcome my brother

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    2. I want to know Why in the vedas its written that earth is static and sun is revolving round the earth which i think are blunders. Can u give me the truth behind that also...

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    3. Go to "agniveer" website to clear all your doubt about this matter. Its really useful and revealing. I had that confusion about earth being static..etc from vedas.We have been mislead from Zakir propaganda. Did you know that we have calculated the earth circumference(only 1% error-because aryabhatta used pi to only 3 decimal places), 200 years b4 mohamad was born. And yet in koran it says the eath is flat. It seems Aryabhatta is more intelligent than allah!

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    4. why not you people form a group and can call him for an argument

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    5. Why don't you people post your doubts on the website of Zakir Naik instead of coming to a conclusion straight away.And by the way Zakir Naik is also condemning those muslims who are killing innocents in the name of Jihad.According to Quran if a person kills an innocent it is as if he killed the whole humanity.
      And for your information Vedas also insist on worship of One God which is formless and does not favors idol worship.Visit www.vedmandir.com for further clarification, a site maintained by Swami Ramswarup.He has studied Vedas, Shastras, Upnishads, Mahabharat (including Bhagwadgeeta), Valmiki and Tulsi Ramayan, and Brahman Granths like Yaskacharya, Shatpath, Manusmriti, etc. He has studied Sanskrit language under Guru Shishya parampara traditionally. And he agrees that Kalki avatar is none other than Prophet Mohammed.Similarly, Shri Vedprakah Upadhaya also says that in his book Kalki Avatar and Mohammed Sahib. All learned scholars, both Hindus and Muslims, have the same opinion.

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  8. The Hindu Lover Bro

    Thank You. You are most welcome to promote my blog by your site.

    Jai Sree Ram

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    1. Muhammed Can never be Kalki Incarnation of God Krishna.

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  9. SWAMI VIVEKANANDA DID NOT SAY ANY SUCH THING THAT VEDAS ARE NOT PRESERVED IN PURE FORM,CORRUPTED ETC. THIS STATEMENT IS FABRICATED. THERE IS NO SUCH COMMENT OF SWAMIJI ANYWHERE.

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    1. it's true... hindu is so detail.. I love hindu.. and vedas always give me answers of my life problems.. just don't care with what the other people say.. if they're really compassion they'll respect us as the worshipers of the God.. if they're not respect us.. yeah u know what it meant to be.. just let them go with their statements.. whatever they said is ok.. but in the end when they're finish to talk and complaining, we're already in heaven..

      may Lord Vishnu bless us all :)

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  10. If one says that Hindu scriptures is not 100% word of God then i will say that the parts which proven Muhammad as a kalki avatar is wrong and the others are write. Because am a christian and doing the Justice. Kalki avatar is Jesus because he claims himself to be god.

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    1. Mr Christian. I am a Muslim but honestly speaking as I read the signs of Kalki I also thought these signs match more to Jesus Than Prophet Mohammed.

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    2. yes go snatch the avatar buddy.. this is will proof that HINDU is the most powerful one.. we have so many things u don't.. and we have so many things that u wouldn't understand.. Hey HINDU brothers.. let's see how they express our religion's truth.. just give them a moment.. let's see how those brats debates with their nonsense..

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  11. http://theblasphemerstruth.blogspot.in/2012/04/blasphemous-truth.html

    people should read this blog and see the reality themselves, what there 'sholars' are leading them to is blasphemy and intolerence!!!

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  12. 1. English has only word God to mean All-mighty Omnipotent whom Hindus call Ishwar and other human-like creatures who act smart – like one who sends Angels, gets angry, sits on a throne or creates Heaven and Hell.
    2. In Hinduism, the word to describe All-mighty Omnipotent is Ishwar. Thus Ishwar = God. But writers take God to mean Devata. Now Devata does not mean Ishwar. Devata means any entity – living or dead that gives us anything or benefits us. In English, I would call Devata to mean “Helper”.
    3. While Vedas believe in one single Ishwar and 33 types of non-living Helper Devatas, even the average Hindu does not consider these Helper devatas to be Ishwar.
    4. Thus Hinduism is essentially monotheistic and Quran has derived its concept of monotheism basically from Vedas
    5. The three Gods are symbolic description of 3 functions of Ishwar – Creation, Maintenance and Destruction. Different Hindu sects may differ with regards to the importance one should be attaching to these various symbols or importance of Helper-Devatas, but all unanimously agree that there is one and only one Ishwar/God. Dr Naik has no new USP of Islam to sell here

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  13. Should Kalki appearance (avatar) means Prophet Mohamed (pbh) All Veda (4 Vedas) will become part of Islam like that of Christianity and Judaism. Muslims should consider Hindu as brothers in Religion like that of Christians. Muslims should respect the Originator of Veda like the way they respect Originator of Christianity the Jesus and Moses. Muslims should accept the food of Hindus like the way they accept food of Christians and so on. (all that is applied to Christians will be applied to Hindus.) Is it acceptable for Muslims? It is unjust to ask all Hindus to be converted to Islam. There were plenty of Jews and Christians at the time of Prophet Mohamed but he never forced any of them to be converted to Islam although he accepted Jesus is one of his brothers. In contrary his relationship with Christians was very good.

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  14. Most muslims claim their Qu'ran to be a word from GOD where they all know it is quotes from Mohamod and many of its verses were changed. Vedas has no single root, no evidence of who wrote them etc..And Hindus dont claim Vedas to be word from God BUT A GUIDENCE TO PRACTICE RELIGION FROM SAGES!!!

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    1. No Quran is not word of GOD, there are few things I said rest were added by ppl who are against Humanity. But No worries I will change that soon.

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  15. What an idiotic but hilarious discussion? A person claimed that some guy called mohammed is same as kalki. why? because a number of Hindus worship Vishnu and Kalki is supposedly a new incarnation.

    Another person claim that it is not. Then comes a proof (There is though nothing scientific about them)

    Well read more modern research.

    Facts:
    a)No book is by the God and such baseless prophesies can be made to fit any tom Dick and Harry.
    1)Check how the Nostradamus prophesies work. Its a simple con game
    2)Read Vedas and Quran properly without bias; these books are outdated, boring and wrong on several counts.
    They neither have proper classification and nor what is written in them is totally scientific is nature. Too many things have been proven wrong in these text. Ancient Hinduism is more towards atheism.

    Now coming on the platform of religious idiots: those who read Vedas must know that there is no mention of Vishnu in rigveda forget kalki. Indra is the main hero. So both sides at least have the wits to read the text on which you debate.

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    1. It may be true ; except Quran .U cannot find any errors in Quran and not a single verse have been disproved by science untill now unlike the other books

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    2. Not a single verse disproved??? Are you kidding? How about the earth is flat or that the sun sets in the mud, how about human evolution? You people once say evolution theory was propaganda from non muslim, and now when human evolution evident is overwhelming, you turn the plate and say - The Quran says (29:20): “Say: Travel in the earth then see how He makes the first creation, then Allah creates the latter creation.”- claiming Darwin got his idea from quran...Bunch of hypocrites...Same as Zakir, only cherry pick verse that suits his purpose.

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    3. You watch a movie and then write about it completely in a book. Now another person reads your book and will he get the same effect of watching the movie by reading your book? No never...

      Languages have limitation all the scriptures which is written using languages is incomplete due to its inherent limitation...hence for true growth we need to go beyond the scriptures to understand the real truth.

      Do you still believe in Adam & Eve Story or Darwin's Theory of evolution?
      Do you still believe that Earth is flat or Earth is round?
      Do you still believe Man was made out of clay & water or do you believe matter was made from Boson Particles (God particles as Science calls it)?

      To say a scripture is word of God and in saying so ..we find God was mistaken at many places..does not go well...it's common sense..but if you are brain washed to believe so then its your problem ...that is keeping the truth away from you..

      Belief is different from truth...A belief can be created in a person..but truth is truth..It was believed Earth was flat..but the truth was Earth is round...A human can be programmed to believe any thing...Psychology proves it can be done..

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  16. there s no god but allha (creator) n muhammad (pbun) his alast messenger of god there no doubt, n brother u told koran is a man created then tell me hw quran talk about moon that moon dont have there own light, n hw quran tlk about stage of baby in mom stomach,there is too many baba vch scince climed recently n quran clime 1400 yrs b4, if u hv doubt then go n read quran then u will know but dear when you read open your heart n mind n use it, creator guide u the best who created u n me n wtever in b/w earth n heaven,,

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    1. Copied from Vedas. Muslim rules invaded India and learned from Vedas, then written and formed their own book. Ancient Indian sages through meditation created all the concepts. Without meditation you cannot come to know about moon light and like that. Regards

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  17. ZAFIN,There is not god but me. So up or I will send you to hell.

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  18. hey bro,
    there is a research done in india about this fact by a brahmin.
    there are many facts that provides similarities bw prophet Muhammed(pbuh) and Kalki avatar...
    some of them are;


    1. Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be the last Messenger / Prophet of Bhagwan (Allah) to guide the whole world. Afer quoting this reference the researcher says that this comes true only in the case of Muhammed (saw).

    2. According to a prophecy of Hinduism, 'kalki autar' will be born in an island and that is the Arab territory which is known as 'jazeeratul Arab'.

    3. In the 'sacred' book of Hindus the father's name of 'kalki autar' is mentioned as 'Vishnu Bhagat' and his mother's name as 'somanib'. In sanskrit, 'vishnu' stands for Allah (swt) and the literal meaning of 'bhagat' is slave. 'Vishnu Bhagat' therefore, in the Arabic language will mean Allah's slave (Abdullah). 'Somanib' in Sanskrit means peace and tranquilty which in arabic is denoted by the word 'Amina'. Whereas the last Messenger Muhammed's (saw) father and mother's names were Abdullah and Amina respectively.

    4. In the big books of Hindus, it is mentioned that 'kalki autar' will live on olive and dates and he will be true to his words and honest. In this regard he writes, "This is true and established only in the case of Muhammed (saw)".

    5. Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be born in the respected and noble dynasty of his land. And this is also true as regards Muhammed (saw) as he was born in the respected tribe of Quraish who enjoyed great respect and high place in Makkah.

    6. 'Kalki Autar' will be taught in the cave by Bhagwan through his own messenger. And it is very true in this matter. Muhammed (saw) was the only one person in Makkah who has taught by Allah's Messenger Gabriel in the cave of Hira.

    7. It is written in the books which Hindus believe that Bhagwan will provide 'Kalki autar' with the fastest of a horse and with the help of which he will ride around the world and the seven skies/heavens. The riding on 'Buraq' and 'Meraj' by the Prophet Muhammed (saw) proves what?
    (it may be the vimana)
    8. It is also written in the Hindus' books that 'kalki autar' will be strengthened and heavily helped by Bhagwan. And we know this fact that Muhammed (saw) was aided and reinforced by Allah (swt) through His angels in the battle of Badr.

    9. Hindus' books also mention that 'kalki autar' will be an expert in horse riding, arrow shooting, and swordsmanship. What Pundit Vaid Parkash comments in this regard is very important and worth attention and consideration. He writes that the age of horses, swords, and spears is long ago gone and now is the age of modern weapons like tanks, missiles, and guns, and therefore it will be unwise to wait for 'kalki autar' bearing sword and arrows or spears. In reality, the mention in our books of 'kalki autar' is clearly indicative of Muhammed (saw) who was given the heavenly book known as Al-Qur'an.

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    1. My dear research Brother,
      There is NO MENTION of KALKI in the Vedas.
      Pls do ur research right, Did u get this from the idiot Naik's Face ????

      LOL

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    2. One silly person has developed some stupid theory and people are believing it. Believing it means that Vishnu avatar kalki if it is Prophet means Islam is nothing but a branch of Hinduism . So Zakir naik should star going to temple everyday.
      If Prophet is lord vishnu then gabriel may be Devershi narada and since lord vishnu is subordinate to lord shiva or goddess durga then it means that Allah is lord shiva or goddess durga which will be completely false according to Islamic principles . Hence the theory of Prophet as kalki avatar should be completely opposed and discarded.

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    3. You have opened my eyes. I am a muslim and now I can to know that we came from the oldest civilizations.
      Our Prophet Mohd. was really a worshiper of Shiv.
      Thanks brother faisal for your points every thing you wrote means Islam was already predicted in the Hindu Texts so we came from there..............
      Thanks Faisal Thanks A lot. Atleast now I will follow the right path.

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  19. just try to learn the Qur-aan.. then you can understand the things

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    1. Just try to learn the vedas your own forefathers preserved and left behind. Before Islam, India was the richest/first/developed/most educated country. Very much like America today and even better. We indians gave the world medicine, martial arts,maths (the number u r using is not Arab's-they stole from us)and many many others. Muslim invaders raped our women and land till we forgot our own identity and pride - like you now. Now you want us to appreciate thier koran? If your forefathers were alive they must be very dissapointed and will disown you.

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  20. 1. Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be
    the last Messenger / Prophet of Bhagwan
    (Allah) to guide the whole world. Afer
    quoting this reference the Pundit Parkash
    says that this comes true only in the case
    of Muhammed (saw). 2. According to a prophecy of Hinduism,
    'kalki autar' will be born in an island and
    that is the Arab territory which is known
    as 'jazeeratul Arab'. 3. In the 'sacred' book of Hindus the father's
    name of 'kalki autar' is mentioned as
    'Vishnu Bhagat' and his mother's name as
    'somanib'. In sanskrit, 'vishnu' stands for
    Allah (swt) and the literal meaning of
    'bhagat' is slave. 'Vishnu Bhagat' therefore, in the Arabic language will
    mean Allah's slave (Abdullah). 'Somanib'
    in Sanskrit means peace and tranquilty
    which in arabic is denoted by the word
    'Amina'. Whereas the last Messenger
    Muhammed's (saw) father and mother's names were Abdullah and Amina
    respectively. 4. In the big books of Hindus, it is
    mentioned that 'kalki autar' will live on
    olive and dates and he will be true to his
    words and honest. In this regard Pundit
    Parkash writes, "This is true and
    established only in the case of Muhammed (saw)". 5. Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be
    born in the respected and noble dynasty
    of his land. And this is also true as
    regards Muhammed (saw) as he was born
    in the respected tribe of Quraish who
    enjoyed great respect and high place in Makkah. 6. 'Kalki Autar' will be taught in the cave by
    Bhagwan through his own messenger.
    And it is very true in this matter.
    Muhammed (saw) was the only one
    person in Makkah who has taught by
    Allah's Messenger Gabriel in the cave of Hira. 7. It is written in the books which Hindus
    believe that Bhagwan will provide 'Kalki
    autar' with the fastest of a horse and
    with the help of which he will ride
    around the world and the seven skies/
    heavens. The riding on 'Buraq' and 'Meraj' by the Prophet Muhammed (saw) proves
    what? 8. It is also written in the Hindus' books
    that 'kalki autar' will be strengthened
    and heavily helped by Bhagwan. And we
    know this fact that Muhammed (saw)
    was aided and reinforced by Allah (swt)
    through His angels in the battle of Badr. 9. Hindus' books also mention that 'kalki
    autar' will be an expert in horse riding,
    arrow shooting, and swordsmanship.
    What Pundit Vaid Parkash comments in
    this regard is very important and worth
    attention and consideration. He writes that the age of horses, swords, and
    spears is long ago gone and now is the
    age of modern weapons like tanks,
    missiles, and guns, and therefore it will
    be unwise to wait for 'kalki autar'
    bearing sword and arrows or spears. In reality, the mention in our books of 'kalki
    autar' is clearly indicative of Muhammed
    (saw) who was given the heavenly book

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    1. Kalki avatar will take place after 5000 years from Buddha. So still 2-3000 years are left. It will happen only when adharma and kaliyug effects will be at peak. Kalki avatar is not Prophet but MAHDI
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi

      Yes its Mahdi that is Kalki avatar not prophet.

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    2. then man it is better leave your prohaphet and belive in new satya yuga of lord vishu

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  21. hi rajesh
    its becoz quran is learn by heart to muslims in all the parts of world since it has been revealed even if anyone changes a single world in it, it get noticed and corrected. but wen it comes to other scriptures like vedas you will not find any one who who has learned by heart all of them. even more than 20% parts of vedas is missing.

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    1. kindly note that Bhagvat is considered as the supreme books amongst veda and is believed to be esscence of all veda. s o bhagwat is unchangeable and copy of bhagvat can be seen in majority of hindu households.

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    2. Those parts as u mentioned are not missing.. but set to fire by the muslims when they invade India....only thing those muslim did to us are loot...plunder...démolition of temples...burning down religious text...raping hindu women and forcefull conversion to islam....now they are interpreting religious text in their own way to spread islam in India.....together with terrorism....if kalki is prophet muhammed then who were baraha avater...rama...Krishna...Parashuram....Vaman avatar....the mighty Narsimha.... what was their names in islamic texts???? If mohhamad is kalki avater then it means we are living in satya yug....then instead of peace why those islamic guys are creating new terrorist groups .....u people are the real sinners Lord kalki will come and destroy you all...Jai Sri Krisna....

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  22. Nice work. These Abdullahs will try anything possible to convert us to Islam. Now posing Muhammad as incarnation of Vishnu! That sure will make Hinduism obsolete. Wouldn't it Abdullah! Nice Taqqiyya trick though, to use the very own scriptures of Hindus against them. Weak of mind will follow you already; while wise people will laugh at your desperation & idiocy!!

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    1. You know what troubles me..Kalki is the last avatar in this yuga cycle and muhammad claim himself to be last prophet....so why the muslims claim they are waiting for Mahdi to come and save them??? No consistency or logic at all. Unfortunately, Fakir listeners are all too dumb to realise this. They just clap at everything.

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    2. convert zakir and haq into hindus . They have accepted vedas and purans

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    3. If muhammad is incarnation of Hindu God Vishnu then all the muslims are actually Hindu s.....they should stop visiting their mosque and start visiting temple chanting the names of Hindu Gods and Godesses.....

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  23. great work keep up good work

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  24. God.. now I have to call His Name, why can't several people leave others to live in peace in whatever they believe? Never ever compare any person in any religion to any person in another religion, it is completely stupid and foolish. You must understand that a professor can be stupid too, sometimes and a pundit is just a human, he experience good time and difficult time where his judgment can be very poor. Hindu and Islam is like two different poles, never try to find the similarity in concerning with deity, teachings and others. Why would I sacrificing delicious pork, that has been proved rich of omega 3, and good for my health only because a crazy man says Muhammad is Kalki Avatar? Look, either this man does not understand the meaning of avatar, or blind about the fact of Muhammad. He is a hindu, so he does not know the last. And some stupid scholars who echoed him do not know avatar. period.

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  25. if lord kalki is prophet,then muslims have to believe in bhagtibad greatest gift of hinduism towards society which is missing from the holy book.............

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  26. if kalki is prophet,who is shiv shakti according to muslims.............

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  27. Kalki Avathar cannot be Prophet Mohammad for one main reason - that Kalki is the very God in the human form (Avathar) while Mohammad is a Messenger of the God.

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    1. Very Good observation indeed

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  28. Islam may be the uktimate revelation of the almighty and it has all the answers,so let me know the following which is beyond my comprehension-why only a muslim will find jannat and not anybody else even though he might be more pious than a muslim?Why and who and from where the other relegions originate from if The Almighty is the Allah of Muslims?Why did the Prophet find it convenient to get more than 800 of the banu qureish to be massacred mercilessly according to their book Torah?If he is a prophet he could have pardoned then!!!Why did the prophet marry Aisha,a nine year old on the alibi of God?He could have adopted her as a daughter!!!Why did he marry his adopted son zyed's wife Zainab again with the alibi of Allah?If he were the prophet then irrespsctive of the evil practices of those times he should not have encouraged slaves and mentioned them as a right of what your right hand possess!!!Prophets are supposed to be reformists and at least Jesus never gave any reasons of this kind to debate!!!Today countries like India,Pakistan,Bangladesh suffer from shortage of food and water.The increasing population has carnivored the natural amenities in this part of the world to an extent that people may savage mankind to survive and what do the muslims say "Allah dega".He invited 100 to a party and 500 landed!What does the almighty do?Is there anything mentioned about the family planning in qu'ran?Or does it say the muslims should conquer the world with sheer numbers as in Malaysia?Does it encourage a muslim to take his ststure with his conduct to a level where people around you get impressed and follw you?Why there is a problem every where where ever there is a substantial muslim population?Others are bad and muslims are good???Islam may be the best relegion but it has a worst following and that is obvious and certain...

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  29. Mr. Anonymous the person who wrote article here is an illiterate person and because of hatred he wrote it.

    I have answers of all of your questions. come to this page u will get it.
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/371644319534509/

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  30. all should talk like educated people.we r not telling kalki autar is prophet mohemd hundred percnt, we r telling it may be possible as many things are common...ahmed

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  31. This is really a good article. This person really did a great job for stopping Hindu's brain wash.

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  32. All of these confusions are answered by the religion of Mahamati Prannath.

    The link below contains the biography of Mahamati Prannath, the real Kalki of Hindus -

    http://spjin.org/dopahar_ka_sooraj.htm#.UZOV20re9AU

    (file available at the point of commenting this comment)

    But of course, the script/language is Hindi.
    So, I urge Hindus to read this book and discover the unprecedented Kalki of Hinduism.

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  33. Hinduism is not a religion its a whole big confusion.. and Hindus are laughing stock of humanity. What a bunch of fools. huh.

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    1. Yes, I totally agree with you.....Hinduism is not a religion....because Hinduism is sanatan(Ever present) and is the work of the almighty himself and is present from the time immoral....Naturally the almighty never felt it necessary to create a divide among his own creations by inventing religions....This is a super and ultimate proof that Hinduism is the true work of Almighty..

      It is only human and their vested interests...that creates the necessity for devising different religions......Hence, all so called religions that are created and propagated by humans can not be the true path for almighty....Just think about it.

      We might be the laughing stock of ignorant humanity ... but we are the true and unchangable like the almighty himself. We do not get carried away by the crowd and are not afraid of being alone among humanity ..... Simply bacause we know that the almighty God is always with us and looking over us ... Here us does not imply only hindus .... entire humanity irrespective of meaningless and false human propagated religions they follow.

      May god be with you....

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    2. Hinduism is GOD s own religion....not religion of some camel riding desert people....whose only motto is to spread their religion by hook or crook......

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  34. ISLAM HAMESHA JHUTH KE DAM ME PHAILA HAI..........AGAR KOI MUSLIM BHABSYA PURANA ME KYA LIKHA HAI DEKH LE TO WO ISLAM CHOR DEGA......HAHAHA....MUSLIM CHECK FIRST WHAT WRITTEN IN BHABSYA PURA ABOUT MUHAMAD.......http://bhavishyapuran.blogspot.in/2012/09/bhavishya-purana-prediction-of-islam.html ############################################################
    http://bhavishyapuran.blogspot.in/2012/09/bhavishya-purana-prediction-of-islam.html

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    1. Malecha means a foreigner, a non-Aryan or a sinful person.In this context it means a foreigner and not a sinful person.Will a sinful person say that if a person kills an innocent it is as if he kills the whole humanity? Will he insist us to serve our parents even if they are rude to us.Will he tell us to give charity to the poor?

      Have you ever read the history of Arabia before Mohammed? There were hundreds of idols claimed to be God and their owners sold it to poor people at high prices telling them that it will save them from a natural calamity, or make them rich, or give them a male child instead of a female.They used to force them to sacrifice their new born children in order to make a god happy.They used to rape women as per their wish.If a female child was born they were buried alive in the sand.

      And this translation is very illogical.First of all I don't believe that a man who will be born 5000 years from now will be able to kill all the people with a sword.Nowhere in the translation are modern weapons, like nucleur weapons, guns and many others which will be discovered in the future, but instead the army is mentioned to attack the Kalki avatar with a javelin. Such a foolish enemy! He must have used ultra modern weapons.

      Moreover, it is mentioned in the translation it is mentioned that those so called 'sinful people' will attain salvation(reach heaven) after being killed in the war.Do you really believe in this? They will reach heaven because they were fighting for good.

      And please try to know about Islam. The Islamic creed did not begin with the prophethood of Muhammad, nor was it invented by him. It is essentially the same message contained in previous divine scriptures and taught by all prophets of Allah.
      Islamic beliefs are eternal truths that neither change nor develop. Mohammed was just the last Prophet sent by God as a bless to humanity. And according to Quran there has not been a single tribe without a warner. And according to chapter 2,verse 4 of the Kuran it is a guidance for those who believe what was reveled to Muhammed(i.e. Quran) and what was revealed before Mohammed. It is a guidance for those who believe in one God and the Unseen with certainity.

      Nowhere in the Quran does it tell its followers to kill the innocents. It tells us to worship one God, to believe in the hereafter and to do righteous good deeds.And even Vedas tell us to worship one formless God and does not favours idol worship.Please refer to www.vedmandir.com for more information.

      Please read Quran atleast once.Maybe it will help you.

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    2. Learn the truths about your own religion first and then try to analyze the meanings of a Puran. I bet you do not know your own Religion well enough.

      The definition of Innocent in Quoran is only another follower of Islam ( Not faith but the creed propagated by Mohammed ). For all others, the Allah of Quoran commands to the Prohet ..“O Prophet, make war upon infidels and unbelievers, and treat them with severity.”

      So, according to Allah of Moahammed, the followers of such great philosophy of Ancient Vedas were also infiedels and were to be killed mercilessly and precisely, it was that same clause that has propmpted one the great killers in history "Taimur" to attack and start the river of blood shed in india.

      This is a real pity that you are made to believe that your religion is full of piece ..... Go and check again ... you may have some serious revelations other than Quoran....

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  35. My dear human, I appreciate your knowledge but you should not abuse to any religion. Each and every religion has an importance to it's followers.
    I am a hindu and my religion did not teach to heart any people without any region. Religions are pure but different - different human mentalities(according to their convenient) mix the impurities and spread the defected religion.
    So if you want to know the different religion please directly purchase the reference books of that religion and know about it. After that make the result.

    I was feeling bad when i read that Afghanistan(Kandhar) was a part of india at the time of ashoka but when i read Bhavisya Puran ("west side of sindhu river will be the home of musalman and other side will be for Aryan(hindu)") I feel good and think that the incidents will be definitely occur and no one can stop it.
    Today human have corrupted either he is hindu or muslman or Christian or any other. You can see in india Marathi fights from bihari , south fights from north e.t.c it is not only a story of shia vs sunni.
    So make your result after take knowledge of that area.
    (SATYAM SHARMA)

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    1. What is going on in today's world is because of man's lust for power and money and not because of religion. Was the cause of World War one and World War two religion? All warners sent by God tell us to worship one God only. It is we who have misinterpreted it.You can check that the Vedas insist us to worship one god only and condemns idol worship.The only way to attain salvation.

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  36. Why don't you people post your doubts on the website of Zakir Naik instead of coming to a conclusion straight away.And by the way Zakir Naik is also condemning those muslims who are killing innocents in the name of Jihad.According to Quran if a person kills an innocent it is as if he killed the whole humanity.
    And for your information Vedas also insist on worship of One God which is formless and does not favors idol worship.Visit www.vedmandir.com for further clarification, a site maintained by Swami Ramswarup.He has studied Vedas, Shastras, Upnishads, Mahabharat (including Bhagwadgeeta), Valmiki and Tulsi Ramayan, and Brahman Granths like Yaskacharya, Shatpath, Manusmriti, etc. He has studied Sanskrit language under Guru Shishya parampara traditionally. And he agrees that Kalki avatar is none other than Prophet Mohammed.Similarly, Shri Vedprakah Upadhaya also says that in his book Kalki Avatar and Mohammed Sahib. All learned scholars, both Hindus and Muslims, have the same opinion.

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    1. Is God so partial that all the warners will come in India only and no where else in the world?

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    2. Please reply brothers.

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    3. Dear Friend, it is not because, prophet Mohammed was born outside India and so he can not be Kalki. The very thought that you possess in your mind shows that you have already closed the windows of your mind. But still I will try to open it for you with my little know hows.....

      - It is clearly stated that Kalki's arrival with mark the end of Kali Yuga and re establishment of Satya Yuga. Now my friend, can you tell me whether that has happened with the arrival of Mohammed Sahib?

      - Was it Satay Yuga when 30000 women and children had to perform Jauhar to save theselves from the carnage of Alauddin Khilji?
      - Was it In Satya Yuga also when Great Taimur Lang invaded Delhi and ordered his army to indiscreminately kill all hindu men and boy childs and rape their women and also had the audacity to record the same in his biography.

      Was it also an example of Satya Yuga when the followers of Hinduism were condemned by additional and unjustified extra taxes by the Mughal Kanun....

      No my brother, none of these incidents are examples of Satya Yuga .... In fact they are the examples that we are living in Ghor Kali Yuga and things will further worsen as the days will pass and finally the Almighty will be forced to descend as Kalki Avatara.......

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  37. They talk about Muhammad being mentioned in the Hinduic scripts. Even few logics are also presented. But the thing is they know not Hinduism in deep.

    Do you know why a horse has its one leg in the air while its three legs in the ground? ...
    I bet no one does... The four legs of the horse represents the four Vedas (Rig, Sam, Yajur and Atharva Vedas).
    Here's the truth ... Ved Vyas was only the knower of Rig Veda, Sam Veda and Yajur Veda except for the Atharva Veda.
    Atharva Veda was never explained by anyone... I mean none, not even Vyas! So, one of the few tasks of Kalki becomes - to explain the knowledge of Atharva Veda (symbollically - the fourth leg of Kalki's horse).

    I'm saying this because Prophet Muhammad had never ever explained the knowledge Atharva Ved in the Mecca, or did he? Please, ask this question to those who claim that Prophet Muhammad to be Kalki.

    But why are the leaders presenting "Muhammad" as "Kalki"? ... You know Why? ... cuz they don't know who Kalki is ... It is just their hunch! ... Yeah, few similarities are presented but I think that isn't fully sufficient to prove that Muhammad is Kalki.

    But on the other hand, (according to my perspective, the perspective that I had developed on my own from the wisdom of Mahamati Prannath), Rasul Muhammad is partially Kalki (in one way)!!! ... Do you wanna know why? ... Then, please read Alif Lam Mim. Alif Lam Mim is
    the Kalki of Hindus!!! And not even the Hindus or the Muslims ever knew of this fact!!!
    Rasul Muhammad's spirit was also present in Kalki (or Mahamati Prannath)!!

    And Mahamati Prannath is Kalki because he had explained the Atharva Veda in its original sense!!! Thus, by explaining Atharva Veda, Mahamati Prannath (the Kalki) has ridden his horse!

    Also download the biography of Mahamati Prannath by clicking here, and read it for yourself if you don't believe me a bit!!!

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  38. Please visit website http://www.swastik.org for Kalki Avatar details ... 09603931638

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  39. Islam is a pathetic religion of criticism and comparison only , as like as zombies they only want to increase their population by spreading their infection called Islam , to all human beings and finally they want to conquer the whole earth.

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  40. @ Hindurevolution .. Gr8 work sir , very few people like you can do something for dharma

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  41. it is a matter of deap knowledge understanding and serious effort to get the rifht path and not a matter of joke and fight.

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  42. Dear Friends,

    I am the latest member joining this site. But I find that in last few months the enthusiasm is not so intense as it was before. So, I want to refresh the whole thing up and want every one to participate in full vigour. I will call myself the "Truth Seeker" and keep posting some critical analysis and reasons that supports the topic of this discussion.....

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  43. Dear Friends,

    We have only one life which we are living, so to reach God we should have to search the truth, do not criticize each other, do the research work. Before our death we would be able to tell ourselves that we are on the right path. whether you be a Hindu, Christian, or Muslim do the work on yourself and on your religion.

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    1. we should search the most authentic book of religion and the most
      influence personality all over the world.

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  44. To all muslims,

    They are actually Hindus let me prove it :

    ISLAM - The word Islam is derived from the Sanskrit words ‘Isa’ and ‘Alayam’.

    In Sanskrit ‘Isa’ means God, and ‘Alayam’ means place. The Temple is the place where God is present, and Lord Shiva was the God for Muhammad’s family members. His grandfather and uncles were the priests of the Kaba Temple. Thus Muhammad dedicated the name of his newly created religion to the Kaba Temple by naming it ‘The Place of God’ which also means ‘The Temple of God’, Islam.


    Shahada (Shahada (faith) is the first and most important pillar of Islam)
    In Sanskrit ‘Shraddhaa’ means faith.The fact that the word for the first and most pillar of Islam is derived from the Sanskrit word is simple proof that the pre-Islamic Arabs knew Sanskrit and were followers of the Vedic religion but were very degraded.

    Muhammad (from the Kureshi tribe)The Kurueshi signifies a descendant from the Indian Kuru dynasty that once ruled many parts of the World, including the Middle East regions before the Mahabharat war (until about 5000 years ago). The war was between the Kurus and the Pandavas and the Kurus were defeated which ended their rule. This is mentioned in the Bhagavad-Gita

    Crescent Moon -Lord Shiva has a crescent moon on his head.

    Makkah-Makkheshvar is another name for Lord Shiva. The word Makkah was derived from Makkeshvar. A place where Makkeshvar (Lord Shiva) is present

    Shiites-Those who follow Lord Shiva are called Shaivites

    Namaz- In Sanskrit ‘Namas’ means ‘bow down’. The Muslims perform Namaz five times a day and this entails specific yoga posture. The Muslims are unconsciously doing yoga during Namaz.

    Ramadan - In Sanskrit ‘Rama-dhyana’ means ‘to meditate on Lord Ram’. He is an incarnation of Lord Krishna who appeared in Tetra-yuga, around 1.7 million years ago. The Muslims are unconsciously worshiping Lord Ram by fasting during Ramadan, but they end the fast by killing animals. Thus the killing loses the benefit gained by fasting.

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  45. Some more points to prove that muslim are following hindu religion only

    Inside the Kaba - The Muslims will say they believe in the truth, yet they completely ignore the Vedic origin of Islam, even though there is clear proof as described in this document and elsewhere. The non-Muslims are not allowed near the Kaba and only a selected few Muslims are allowed inside the Kaba. What is inside the Kaba is kept top secret. The reason is that if people were to see the inside of the Kaba they would very much doubt Islam.

    What is inside the Kaba?

    · There are verses from the Bhagavad-Gita in Sanskrit etched on the walls

    · Image of Lord Krishna as a baby with Yoshoda

    · Image of a bird, most likely Garuda

    There was much more evidence but Muhammad and his followers destroyed most of it. The Muslims are allowed to lie to save or promote their religion and thus we will not know the truth unless a non-Muslim is allowed to enter the Kaba and speak freely.

    Image Worship : The Muslims are very much against image worship, but the grandfather and uncles of Muhammad were engaged in making Temple deities and were the hereditary priests of the Kaba Temple, which housed 360 images.

    The Muslims bow down five times a day facing Mecca, which means they are bowing down to the black stone inside the Kaba, an idol for the Muslims. This is image worship, which was performed by Muhammad’s family for generations and millions of others for millions of years.

    The Muslims will say they don't bow down to the black stone as God but it helps them to direct their prayers in one direction to Allah. This is actually in complete ignorance, because based on the Koran 35.10, Allah is situated above the heavens in the sky. So why don't they bow down to the sky in one direction towards Allah? Why do they need Mecca? The Arabs were followers of the Vedic religion before Islam and it was not possible for the founder of Islam to change all their Vedic habits.

    Islam forbids freedom of speech and thought and the result of this is complete ignorance and thus the Muslims cannot understand that God is a real person with a form who is omnipresent and thus he is also present in the deities in Vedic Temples around the World. The forefathers of all Muslims were followers of the Vedic religion and thus they were deity worshippers like Muhammad’s family members and Muhammad himself who also bowed down to Lord Shiva in the form of the Shiva lingam, the black stone.

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    1. Thanks Dear Anonymous,
      After reading your analysis I believe that there are many things which are hidden from us by our Clergy.
      Thanks for Enlightenment and would be definitely looking for more facts from your end before making up my mind.
      Could you please let me know then why Muslim goes for Tawaf or walking around Ka'bah only?
      awaiting your response

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    2. The Hindus circumambulate the deities in most Temples. The Muslims only circumambulate the Kaba and no other building in the World. Why? For the same reason as the Hindus, the Kaba is a Vedic Temple. Before Islam it had many deities including Lord Visnu and Lord Shiva. Today the Kaba only has the deity of Lord Shiva in the form of the Shiva lingam. The Muslims circumambulate the Kaba in complete ignorance of the real reasons. The Muslims are very much against idol worship but they bow down to the black stone in the Kaba, five times a day.

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  46. Another solid proof taking the clue from Mr. Zalir Naik's Claim only. I can conclusively prove that prophet Mohammed's "Allah" is same as Hindu moon Goddess Durga.

    In vedas, "Durga" the female aspect if Shakti or, creation is referred as "lla(h)" and the Arabic Word "Al" means "The"....

    So, "Allah" = Al + LLA(H) = The + Durga(Shakti) = The Shakti....

    Again from Quran we get " B(h)ishmillah ar Rehman ar Rahim" means - "In the name of Allah, who is beneficial and merciful"

    Now it is obvious that "Rehman" means "Benifical" and "Rahim" means "merciful". Now according the "Quran", "B(h)ismillah" is another name of Same God "Allah". But if we break the word -

    B(h)ismillah = B(h)isma + Allah; but in arabic dictionary there is no word as "B(h)isma". But as usual in sanskrit and Vedas, we have

    B(h)isma = Bhasma = Ash = Shiva the male aspect of Creation

    So, B(h)ismillah literally means = Ash God = Shiva + Shakti, and every body in this world knows that this is an age old concept in "Hinduism". There can not be a coencidence at least on this aspect that the same "Shiva + Shakti" concept is also highlighted in "Quoran".

    So, it is a fact that "Allah" referred by the Arabic people is same as our Shiva + Shakti -

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  47. The literal meaning of the word "Muslim" as I am sure all of you must know is "One who is truly submitted to Almighty (Allah)" and recently I came to know of an incident taht happened in Bhopal In India. As you know Durga Puja is celebrated all over the country and in one of such Puja Committees, one of the main Patron is a Muslim brother and it was he who went to the authorities for seeking the legal permission to held the festival.

    Only a true Muslim ( A person Truely submitted to Allah ) and one truely understands the real meaning behind the arabic God "Allah" can take such bold step and set such example. I salute this brother of mine and I salute all such great thinkers who can rise above the religious veil and seek the real truth ...

    In my next post I will answer to your last question about Tawaf....

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  48. 1.The age of horse is over. Do u still think someone will come riding on horse to eliminate the darkness?
    2.Are you sure about sanskrit word Vishnu Yasha? This names meaning servant of lord Vishnu; which means Abdullah (servant of Lord/Allah)!
    3.Meaning of "Amina" and "sumati" is identical. google it please
    4.Kalki avatar will belong to Arabia. The Sanskrit word Marusthal means a sandy track of land or a desert.(Prati Sarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 5 to 8)

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    1. Let me clarify , Sanskrit existed and all above mentioned Scriptures written nearly in 3000 BC and ISLAM is religion is which is not even 2000 year old and most of the text is copied from Hindu books. if same is predicted so long that means Islam is again one sect of Hinduism. So your doubt is clear hopefully. It does not make sense even to justify that most of texts in ISLAM is copied and remaining is twisted to brainwash others.
      If Hinduism is spread there will be peace in world and world would be better place to live( Free of terrorism)

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  49. Dear Friend,

    You people never realize that in hinduism, the symbolisms have much deeper significance and you can not interpret them as per their original outer appearances.

    And for your information, Saudi Arabia is not the only marusthal in this world. Besides, Kalki is never intended to over throe his own religion and start a new one by capturing the same temple which was the main pilgrimage place of the nearby countries. Can you for example answer the following questions about your own customs -

    1) Why you circumambulate the Kaaba 7 times during Hajj?
    2) Why during Prophate Mohammed's initial stay in Mecca, muslims were asked to face kaaba for prayers and why the same muslims were facing towards Jerusalem during his stay in Medina until finally Mecca was captured by muslims in 630 AD. And why immediately after that, Allah again instructed them to face Kaaba while praying?

    If you are unable to answer by tomorrow, I will give the same to you....

    May God bless you...

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  50. This story never completed . Kalki Meeted Gog and Magog (Koka Vikoka) in the War but Mohammed didn't meet Yuj and Mayooj in Quran. So this is proof that Kalki and Mohammed are not same. and for Muslims friends The real Muslim never mix this beliefs if does, you lose the faith of Islam. If Prophet Mohammed Lives now He slay the Zakir Naik for his false talk

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  51. Hi, I am a Muslim, and i appreciate the fact that your article is clear and trying to bring facts keeping in mind by respecting prophet Mohammed pbuh, The comments by other people are not respectful, but your article is respectful. Your article shows how Indians can have respectful dialogue between faiths.

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  52. Dear Muslim Brother,

    When ever there is some critical discussion and analysis of facts, some of those facts may reveal many un-wanted and un-pleasant truths and those things may hurt some one's feelings. But that does not mean that one has shown disrespect to some person living or, dead.

    Under the circumstances, it is best for us to know that all of us are children of God (Allah / Krishna / Shiva) and we can only guarantee one thing that there will never be any disrespect shown to the God .....

    But we do not predict the same for any human being...

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    1. Thanx, for replying, u r true about the fact the one shouldnt get hurt when unpleasant truths come up in a "healthy" debate about religion. That does apply to every person with any religion in any country. In India the common points among different religions makes us united as Indians, and uncommon points among religions creates a rich culture and diversity in our great Nation.

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  53. To answer my first question -

    In pre-islamic period in Arab, the worshippers of Hindu God Shiva used to circumambulate the Kaba 7 times, same as rest of the Hindus do around their deities in temples all over the world.

    Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), while changing many of the existing practices of Pagan Arab, could not change this particular practice of his forefathers as he was also used to doing the same thing since child hood. Thus this old parctice from earlier religion was also incorporated in the new found Islam. This shows that there was scope for accomodating changes in Islam which suited the existing practices and feelings of some practitioners and hence, Islam is not created by God.

    This is the same reason why the Black Stone Deity (Shiva Lingam) was not destroyed by the Muslims along side the other smaller deities. Because, the family of Prophet Mohammed(pbuh) were the actual guardians of Kaba (The Shiva Temple of Pre-Islamic Era), he exactly new the significance and power of that Black Stone (Sang-e-Aswad) and instructed his followers to bow before this stone and kiss it as a mark of respect. This shows that although Islam in one hand was brutally severe on the Idolators ( Image Worshippers ) and mercilessly massacred them just in the name of "Allah", but in order to maintain the soft feelings of their own followers, spared and guarded the sacred black stone of Kaba. This is again an example of discremination among muslims and non-muslims.

    Many people were brutally murdered only because they were worshipping some Idols and not 'Allah", but immediately after the killings, it became proper for the Muslims to consider the Black Stone of Kaba as a sacred Object.

    Now I want to ask to all Muslims, Why then those Image worshippers were killed in the first place. They were also doing the same. They were also using the Idols to help them direct their prayers to the ultimate God. And as I understand, the Black stone at Kaba is also meant for the same purpose.

    Can any one answer this question and can any one give any logic why Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) also sanctioned those killings?

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    1. Great question but its same way of the way that Dr. Zakir Naik presents his words. The way Dr. Zakir Naik was trying to show Islam in Hinduism, and your statements also does same thing is to show Hindusim from Islam. Whats the difference then.

      well to answer about the black stone, Black stone doesnt have any significance at all, its no more than a relic, In history many times it was even stolen from the location and Kaaba didnt have the stone for more than 20 years, but still people pray towards kaaba. When the stone was returned back, theres no guarantee whether it is the same stone or not, but people dont care.

      If you are seeking truth and understand reasoning, I hope the answer may help you in understanding history and religious evolution. or else I cannot help if you are not rational.

      Phil Plait(Astronomer): "Teach a man to reason and he’ll think for a lifetime"

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  54. The question here is not waht you think. You are a mere follower of the Islamic Faith. But the question here was what the Prophet Mohammed(pbuh) and his direct disciples thought about the stone.

    The question is not here what you actually withheld to prove that you do not worship an idol. The question here was why the Prophet and his followers did not destroy the Black Stone which was one of the Idols?

    You have not answered the question, you have just cleverly avoided it by stating your own thinking and I think that is insignificant while compared with the thinking of the great thinkers like Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) and his immediate followers (the first muslims)....

    And most importantly, you have totally avoided the question regarding the mass slaughterings that happened in Arabia during the lifetime and reign of the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh)

    Please stick to the point while answering...........

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    1. I am not telling I am the right person to answer questions of what prophet Mohammed pbuh thought during those days, because I didnt live those days. As me and you being born in this age and in india, we know things from what we hear that the stone was regarded sacred before prophet, and after prophet the sayings are that prophet said that it is just a stone neither harms nor benefits anyone.

      About the Mass Slaughter that you are saying I never heard of it. As what history says that Makkah was conquered back non-voilently by the march of 10000 muslim pilgrims coming from all over arabia during the lifetime of the prophet.

      And me when you ask who worries more about my c++ code than religious discussions. I would say that the black stone could just be a meteorite fallen or an impactite formed by a meteorite by no religious significance. I just want to be rational and expect everyone to be so.

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    2. Then you your self is not clear about your religion, and if you don't know what is that black stone and why it is so religiously important then no need to worship, You can get your answer in this blogs itself about your tradition and how same is derived from Hinduism.

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  55. Dear Mr. Abdul,

    It is good to know that you are a software Engg. and who will know better than you the importance of logic and rationality that is required in any form of Coding work. I only want you to apply those same logic to the history of your own religion instead of simply believing what some people are saying.

    I am surprised to that your knowledge is so limited in this early history of your own religion. First correction -

    The statement that you claimed that the Prophet made was actually a statement by 3rd Caliph Umar bin Al-Khattab and it goes like this

    'BY ALLAH! I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A STONE AND CAN NEITHER BENEFIT NOR HARM. Had I not seen the Prophet touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' 'Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'"

    One very important part of this message is "Wanted to show off to these pagans", so in the own admission of one of the closest associate of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), Islam incorporates showing off and admits doing some rituals which are against their own and Allah's principle. If this is the thinking of one of the founder pillars of Islam, we can very well imagine how much more distortions might have happened in subsequent centuries.

    Besides, the above was just a statement from Umar, it was never corroborated by the Prophet himself. Where as his own actions after entering the Kaba in 630 AD speaks a totally different story - Afetr entering the Kaba, he started hitting each of the idols uttering that Truth have won and falsehood have lost and his followers started breaking those idols. But when it came to the Black stone, he passionately bowed before it and touched and kissed it. So, it is evident that not only to the Pagans of Mecca, this stone was very close to the heart of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) himself and that is why it was not destroyed. Hence, wish of an individual was more important than the basic philosophy of Islam and Allah's basic nature. Hence, it is very much doubtful whether those early follower's really feared and believed in Allah.

    Besides, almost for similar practices, the Pagan were tortured and driven out of their own city and own counrty. Can there be any greater example of double standard? Please read in more details and wait for our future posts...

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    1. As you said distortions happens in world history, I agree to it. But that doesnt mean Religion is wrong, Religion is just the faith that you follow after you are born, which parents and societies teach you. and Religion is for teaching moral conscience to be in society. In Islam, we are allowed to even question the religious leader and confront him if he teaches falsehood in religion. and rationally everyone in any religion should do it. if a person of any religion is not rational, he will come under the influence of wrong preachers to distort their moral conscience.


      As for the question of the black stone is there. My last pilgrimage to Makkah, there was not any compulsory ritual requiring to touch or kiss the black stone to complete the pilgrimage. It is just not more than a relic. It didnt make any difference to muslims before when it was missing from that place for many many years.

      And I never heard of in history about "the Pagan were tortured and driven out of their own city and own counrty", and it was other way round that the new muslims in Makkah were tortured and thrown out of their own city and had to take refuge in neighbouring cities and countries during the lifetime of prophet Mohammed(pbuh). until everyone returned back in large numbers as pilgrims and locals then accepted Islam.

      I saw some other pages in this website which says "Please Kill every Muslims from Hindustan because 99.9% Muslims follow radical Islam". If a rational hindu or muslim person reads this he will ofcourse confront it and doesnt follow it. If a person who doesnt have moral conscience and irrational, and to him if this statement was given, he would have been ready to kill any innocent and do a crime and a sin. I came to this website to know more about hinduism culture, but what I found is there is more articles on antimuslim than information on Hinduism. Does this website need to promote hindu religion on the cost of being anti on other religions? Instead of making hindu culture more aware to todays Indian citizens where even todays hindus are also getting away from it, this website doesnt bring them back nor even make aware of what is hinduism to non-Hindus. I dont understand the purpose of this website. I better watch Mahabharat on star plus than finding information on websites.

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  56. No of course not. We will also highlight many points regarding hinduism as well. But this Blog will also, point out some historical facts about other religion as well. Because, without a comparative analysis, it is not possible to enlighten everybody.

    Besides, while reading various verses of Quoran, I have obsereved many comparisons with Judaism and christiaity. Assuming that the "Quoran" is from God / God's messenger, they have also employed similar tactics for promoting Islam. Besides, my sole goal is to seek the Truth and make this truth known to every one. And I am only doing the same. Also, this is absolutely important to establish the main purpose of this Blog. To show that Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) is not Kalki Avatar after all.

    While participating in debate, you have to set aside your personal emotions and only analyze the facts. If you are emotional, you will not be able to participate in a debate in a sporting manner. If you have the heart for it, you are welcome. Otherwise no one is forcing you to strain yourself emotionally.

    May God Bless you............

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    1. I do agree that I dont need to believe that prophet Mohammed(pbuh) is the next Kalki avatar, for actual the article is made for.

      if Answering in a different way, Prophet Mohammed(pbuh) is both Kalki avatar as well as not. If you bring some comparing facts to a person which shows you differences between both, then Prophet Mohammed is not Kalki Avatar. If a person has been shown the common points between both of them, he will believe Kalki Avatar is prophet Mohammed. In reality, no one has yet come up claiming to be telling the word yet "I am Kalki Avatar", till then for people it is a dilemma. but fake people do come up time to time claiming prophethood, Gods incarnation and Kalki Avatar claiming. and Many people believe them and many dont believe too. You cannot do anything.

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  57. Again, let me tell you what you have heard is not correct. If you are really passionate about your religion, you must do extensive research and find out yourself the true facts. I will give further details to this topic later. But for now let me give you a small brain teaser to work upon -

    In the year 622 AD, Pagan tribes of Mecca Drove Mohammed (pbuh) & 150 of his associates out of Mecca. In 624 AD, in battle of Badr, 300 muslim fighters attacked an otherwise pieceful caravan of Makkans (About 1000) and killed one of the main makkan Leader. After that in 627 AD, Makkans in collaboration with other Jewish tribes attacked the Muslims of Medina ( Battle of Trench).

    Hence, it is quite clear that there was no harmony between Makkans and Muslims as late as early 628 AD. Then all of a sudden in 630 AD, 10000 muslim warriors ( You told Pilgrims) went to Mecca. Is it logically possible that the same Meccan people who were so hostile to Muslims just a day before will accept Islamic Faith all of Sudden. Just think about it yourself.

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    1. Your statement "battle of Badr, 300 muslim fighters attacked an otherwise pieceful caravan of Makkans" is wrong. The looted property of the exiled residents from Makkah were being smuggled out of the city, and the owners of the property had to reclaim it back. It was purely a political war to reclaim the rights of the property owners and reduce smuggling and prevail justice. the war was not against the peaceful caravan but occured against the warriors at a battleground. Several years of peace treaty existed until Makkah victory till that time Islam was spread by word far. Treaty existed later until broken by the Makkans. The Makkan leader Abu Sufyan himself accepted Islam well before the pilgrims arrived unarmed.

      With every answer you try to put a counter question, Is it for you to learn or me to learn. If it is to me to learn, I didnt ask you to ask me questions, because I know in my heart what I follow either Islam or Hinduism or atheism or paganism. The assumptions about history according to you is based mainly on prejudice towards any part of the world which is nonHindu. Whats difference between you and Dr. Zakir Naik, you both try to show dominance with prejudice, and the God alone know what is truth.
      I can say this because i dont believe Dr. Zakir Naik too. If you are a "real" theologist or a practical rational scientist you will know too. World is nothing until you make it mean something.

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  58. Dear Friend,

    I am really sorry that you have brought me to the point of revealing what I did not want to do, so soon in this discussion. My friend, let me tell you frankly that your are simply living and believing in a myth and nothing else. I will be very glad if you could give me the reference for this claim of stolen property other than the recent interpretations by the Muslim Apologetic. Where as I will tell you the real story taking reference directly from your own Hadith ( Ibn Ishaq/Hashim, Bukhari & Also Quran). Please read the true story -

    According to the historians of the day:

    "Then the apostle heard that Abu Sufyan was coming from Syria with a large caravan of Qurish, containing their money and merchandise, accompanied by some thirty or forty men… When the Apostle heard about Abu Sufyan coming from Syria, he summoned the Muslims and said, “This is the Quraish caravan containing their property. Go out to attack it, perhaps Allah will give it as a prey.” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 428)

    Point to be note here is that, the caravan was coming back from Syria and hence, your claim that the Looted property of the Muslims were being smuggled out of Mekka vanishes into thin air my friend. And I am not writing any vague belief, I am quoting from Prophet Mohammed's(pbuh) biography by Ibn Ishaq. Another important point to be noted from the statement of Prophet (pbuh), "... perhaps Allah will give it as a prey."; clearly shows that "Allah" had not yet given his consent as Prophet anticipated that "Allah" will support. Hence, it is quite clear that the Muslims did not wait for "Allah's" consent and decided to attack and loot the innocent Mekkan's on their own. How disobedient and war driven.

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  59. As you wished, the story continues further -

    The account goes on to say that some of the Muslims were reluctant to participate in the attack because they did not want to go to war. Muhammad later refers to these peaceful Muslims as ‘Hypocrites’ in the Qur’an, where he also condemns them to Hell and demands that true Muslims deal with them harshly. Please refer one of the Medina Verse of Quran (Surah 66:9)

    After Muhammad sent his men to attack the caravan, Abu Sufyan (his Meccan adversary) learned of his plans:

    "When he got near to the Hijaz, Abu Sufyan was seeking news and questioning every rider in his anxiety, until he got news from some riders that Muahmmad had called out his companions against him and his caravan." (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 428)

    Abu Sufyan did two things at this point to avert battle. He changed his route, so as to avoid Muhammad’s army, and he sent for help. The Meccans then sent out a larger force of about 900 men to rescue the caravan.

    The point to be noted here is, 900 Meccans were sent, not to fight the muslims, but to rescue the Caravan from the potentially hostile Muslim Army.

    The story goes further -

    A lengthy cat and mouse game ensued between Muhammad and the Meccans, in which the latter do nearly everything they can to avoid a conflict and make their way home (Ishaq/Hisham 433 to 443).

    Eventually Muhammad successfully forces them into battle by deliberately stopping up the water wells on which they depended for the trek back to Mecca - and then planting his army between the remaining wells and the thirsty Meccans.
    At that point, the Muslims clearly had the advantage against the weary and reluctant Meccans, even though they were lesser in number. Initially, they amused themselves by killing the few men desperate enough to try and reach the water:

    To Quote from Ibn Ishaq / Hashim the following heart shaking incident-

    "Al-Aswad, who was a quarrelsome ill-natured man, stepped forth and said, “I swear to God that I will drink from their cistern or destroy it or die before reaching it.” Hamza [a Muslim strongman] came forth against him and when the two met, Hamza smote him and sent his foot and half his shank flying as he was near the cistern. He fell on his back and lay there, blood streaming from his foot toward his comrades. Then he crawled to the cistern and threw himself into it for the purpose of fulfilling his oath, but Hamza followed him and smote him…” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 443)

    What a pity ful scene. A thirsty man desperate for drinking water is termed as "...quarrelsome ill-natured man..".

    Oh God, this is the definition of a man in need of water. In Hinduism, denying a thirsty man water is considered as the gravest of the sins. And here we see, one of the Prophet's adversary, in front of the prohet's own eyes.

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  60. And the Story further goes my friend -

    The Muslims toyed with several other thirst-crazed Meccans in the same deadly manner before Muhammad finally gave the order to rout the “enemy.”

    The period following the victorious battle was one of giddy celebration for the Muslims. The decapitated heads of Muhammad’s opponents from Mecca were presented to him, and their slayers honored.
    Live captives were brought before him as well, where he ordered some ransomed and others executed. In what seemed bizarre even to his own men, Muhammad walked among the bodies of the dead Meccans and taunted them, insisting that they could hear him in Hell (Bukhari 59:314).

    The captured wealth of the Meccans was divided among the victors. Hamza, the man who had slaughtered the first Meccan attempting to reach water, turned his cruel amusement toward defenseless animals, cutting the humps off of camels and disemboweling them for no reason other than to relish their agony (Bukhari 59:340).

    Amid the drunken carnage, Allah “spoke” to Muhammad and told him to make sure that the other Muslims gave him a fifth of the war booty. These words have become permanently recorded in the Qur’an (Surah 8:1), even though they have no relevance today.

    The prophet of Islam also informed his men that their victory was actually due to a legion of angels sent down by Allah (8:9) - which were, of course, visible only to Muhammad (8:50). (For some reason, the angels didn’t show at the next battle, in which the Muslims were routed at Uhud).

    Much of the 8th Sura, one of the Qur’an’s more violent chapters, was “revealed” following the aftermath of the Battle of Badr. Many of the verses make little sense outside of their historical context, proving that the Sira (biography of Muhammad) is necessary for interpreting the Qur’an.

    In this case, the historical context is completely at odds with any misconception on the part of modern-day Muslims that the Battle of Badr was a defensive conflict. Only the Meccans fought in defense of their lives and property that day – and they did so reluctantly, after Muhammad took monumental steps to force them into battle.


    Dear friend, It gives me immense pain to reveal and narrate the above tale. But I can't help it as you have compelled me. You see, I am not that type who can stand this kind of blood bath tales. My sincere request to you my friend, please do not be asleep while you are awake. Please wake up and try to come out of the myths and in the end the truth will be known to you.

    May God bless you ........

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  61. MUHAMMAD in the VEDAS and the PURANAS

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/53691335/33/Chapter-Three-Proof-of-the-Prophets-in-the-Puranas

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  62. I simply do not understand, why you muslims always need to fall back on other Religious scriptures to prove the Prophet hood of Mohammed(pbuh). In fact why do you need to prove it at all. That means you yourselves are not sure whether he is a true prophet or not.

    Please visit the following forum, where another of your fellow is also trying to do the same, but only he is trying to do the same from Christian and Jewish scriptures.

    http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TT8JHO8GH6HK7IJPA/p9179

    Where as, we are only taking reference from all muslim documents (Koran, Hadith & Sira etc..) and the evidence there are proving sufficient to show that Prophet Mohammed(pbuh) was not the true messenger of God and also the book Quran can not probably be a book recited by the God.

    Instead of Changing the subject, why don't you people counter my point regarding the "truth of Battle Of Badr"... The nice work of the Last Prophet of God and his Godly followers...

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  63. jo janma hai voh marega .... jo bana hai voh mitega ... jiska form hai voh formless bana diya jayega .... kya insaan apane parents ko aur unake parents ko marate huye - formless hote huye nahi dekh raha? .... kya kabhi kisiki bhi mrityu nahi dekhi ? ... kya aap shri ram, shri krishna, shri budha, holy prophet jesus, holy prophet mohammed kisiko bhi dekh sakate hai is jamin pe ... nahi na ? ... kyon ? .... kyonki yeh sabhi jitane and jo bhi mahatma dharati pe aaye voh sab Allah/parameshwar/god ke bheje huye das/doot hai/the khud god nahi hai/the.... so Allah/god/parameshwar voh hai jisane kabhi janam nahi liya is liye kabhi unaki mrityu nahi hai ... unaka form hi nahi hai to formless ki bat hi nahi ... unako kisine nahi banaya to koi unako nahi mita sakata .... to almighty lord vohi hai jisane sabko and sab kuchh banaya and jo sabko and sabhi universe ko nass kar dega jab samay hoga .... ab yeh apake uper hai ki aap us sirf ek eternal almighty lord ki upasana/bandagi/prayer karna chahe ya insano ke banaye huye bahotse lords ki .... anth me aap ke karmo ke liye aap hi responsible hai koi aur nahi ..... india me aajkal sachin,rajnikanth,amitabh bachan etc ko bhagvan manate hai log and unake mandir bhi hai ... bahot se hindu bhai hi isase sahmet nahi hoge kyonki voh janate hai ki yeh insan hai hamari hi tarah ... sach pane ke liye insan ko saf mann ka hona jaroori hai ...

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  64. excellent article brother......

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  65. God wont be created (no birth to god) he dont have any parents and he did not have kids.
    God creates the creatures (humans ex: jesus, moses, mohammed (pbuh), ram, krishna and we all. etc etc , jins, animals, plants)
    God dont die. No equivalent to him.
    God can manage everything from heaven. He no need to come to earth to feel the pains of humans. He is all hearer and all knower. He sent the messengers to the mankind to show the path. Last book is Quran and last prophet is muhammed (pbuh).

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    1. Everything you wrote about GOD is correct, except following -

      -Quran is a book from God
      - Krishna is a human

      Please visit
      http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TT8JHO8GH6HK7IJPA/p9422

      You will know truth about Your Quran and also about Krishna...

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    2. You are wrong .... Krishna is God Almighty and "Quran" is definitely a book from God ...

      Please visit http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TT8JHO8GH6HK7IJPA/p9422

      to know the truth about "Quran" as well as "Krishna"

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    3. Definitely not a book from God

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  66. Mohammed Saw has knowledge of india and china at that time. Once he said u have to visit as far as China to seek knowledge glorifying education. Also he compare hinduism and buddhism aslike paganism.

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  67. Hey Everybody,

    PLEASE go thru this site seriously, lot of UNKNOWN information on ISLAM -
    http://godofreason.com/p9.htm

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    1. I am Indian, I have no religion to follow yet and I liked your explanation and you rebuttal to Muslims. That was enlightening, but still doesn't convince me to be a Hindu because of the following Error's in the Vedas, which somehow prove to me it being corrupted. I would appreciate if you could also throw some light on this one because I don't want to follow a religion which contradicts science which we all know about. On the contrary, I have not found or have been successfully refuted by the points by Muslims for the scientific errors in the Quran and there are many errors in the Bible too which they cannot refute or explain. All I want is an explanation which should be logical and without disrespecting any religion.
      ****ONE ERROR AND ITS NOT THE WORD OF GOD:
      1. Vedas say Earth is static - Oh Man ! He who made the trembling earth static is Indra. (Rig Ved 2/12/12)The God who made the earth stable(Yajur Ved 32/6)
      Indra protects the wide earth which is immovable and has many forms (Atarv Ved 12/1/11)Let us walk on the Wide and Static earth (Atharv Ved 12/1/17)
      2. Vedas say Sun moves around the earth on a golden chariot with his 7 horses - As the Veds Claim that the earth is static and so they tried to prove that the sun moves around the earth. The following statement from the rig Ved tries to clarify it:
      "Sun is full of light and knows all the human beings, so his horses take him to sky to look at the world" (Rig Ved 1/50/1)
      "O, Bright sun, a chariot named harit with seven horses takes you to sky" (Rig Ved 1/50/8)
      "O, man, the sun who is most attractive, takes round of the earth, on his golden chariot through the sky and removes the darkness of the earth" ~ (Yajur Ved 33/43)
      3.Vedas say The Bull has supported the Sky
      “The Bull has supported the sky.” Yajur Ved: 4:30.
      “The Bull has supported the sky.” Yajur Ved: 14:5
      -Puranas say Earth is Flat - NARASINGA PURANA - Page 169 - Abithana Sinthamani - says that the earth is flat. Today it has been proved beyond doubt by the scientists that the earth is round.

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    2. What are you saying man, those personification and static references are just made to every person understand the complex way in which solar system work and wanted the people to develop more focus in yog, otherwise everybody in ancient hinduism knew the truth, just read this one and you will release the glories of Sanatan Dharma's Scriptures

      (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread672580/pg1)

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  68. Hey All,

    This site has lot of UNKNOWN information on ISLAM -

    http://godofreason.com/p9.htm

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  69. I am Indian, I have no religion to follow yet and I liked your explanation and you rebuttal to Muslims. That was enlightening, but still doesn't convince me to be a Hindu because of the following Error's in the Vedas, which somehow prove to me it being corrupted. I would appreciate if you could also throw some light on this one because I don't want to follow a religion which contradicts science which we all know about. On the contrary, I have not found or have been successfully refuted by the points by Muslims for the scientific errors in the Quran and there are many errors in the Bible too which they cannot refute or explain. All I want is an explanation which should be logical and without disrespecting any religion.
    ****ONE ERROR AND ITS NOT THE WORD OF GOD:
    1. Vedas say Earth is static - Oh Man ! He who made the trembling earth static is Indra. (Rig Ved 2/12/12)The God who made the earth stable(Yajur Ved 32/6)
    Indra protects the wide earth which is immovable and has many forms (Atarv Ved 12/1/11)Let us walk on the Wide and Static earth (Atharv Ved 12/1/17)
    2. Vedas say Sun moves around the earth on a golden chariot with his 7 horses - As the Veds Claim that the earth is static and so they tried to prove that the sun moves around the earth. The following statement from the rig Ved tries to clarify it:
    "Sun is full of light and knows all the human beings, so his horses take him to sky to look at the world" (Rig Ved 1/50/1)
    "O, Bright sun, a chariot named harit with seven horses takes you to sky" (Rig Ved 1/50/8)
    "O, man, the sun who is most attractive, takes round of the earth, on his golden chariot through the sky and removes the darkness of the earth" ~ (Yajur Ved 33/43)
    3.Vedas say The Bull has supported the Sky
    “The Bull has supported the sky.” Yajur Ved: 4:30.
    “The Bull has supported the sky.” Yajur Ved: 14:5
    -Puranas say Earth is Flat - NARASINGA PURANA - Page 169 - Abithana Sinthamani - says that the earth is flat. Today it has been proved beyond doubt by the scientists that the earth is round.

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  70. I don't understand why we are fighting over an issue which itself is a SUSPENSE for all of us..We can never be able to understand that omnipotent..Everybody knows that we all have the same father..ie one GOD, Allah or Brahma..It is mentioned in every holy book...Why do not we understand that we are brothers..It does not matter what religion we follow but we are from the same father..
    Let me tell you what religion is!!
    Religion is a principal, duties and responsibilities that teaches us to respect others and to avoid us doing those things which are not principally correct.. But religion is now become a blind faith for us..We do not understand it's scientific principal. We started following it blindly in impression that it is the real truth and is a word of God or Allah . Why do not we understand that God lives in us..We better know what is wrong and what is right..To follow something is okey but to follow something blindly leads us and others in great misery..
    We all have some problem..but we blame others..
    We all human have 106 bones and the color of blood is red..
    This only proves that we all are origin from the same father..
    It's completely nonsense to talk about religion...
    If you follow it then it's okey..This will technically give you Sanskar and all but if you classify yourself on the basis of religion then you are doing the foolishness..
    Religion is only caused to make all everyone to practice the same rule and principal so that we would not have any differences..But later on, different religion comes time to time, and it created difference for other religion...So believe in one religion and that is Humanity and nationality..
    That's it..
    I am not neither Hindu or Muslim..
    I am only a 21 year old boy..

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  71. AND THE FIGHT BETWEEN HINDU & MUSLIM GOES ON...AND ON...AND ON...

    Seems like our Bhagwan/Allah/God are enjoying the show from heaven ;-)

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  72. We have to accept that it is not the fight betwn hindu & Muslims but it is difference betn languages used (Arabic vs Sanscrit). Every community on the earth is blessed by wisdom (ashraf-ul-makhlukat OR Sad Sad Vivek Buddhi). So Instead of fighting whether Muhammad (SAW) is kalki or not try to find the actual bhagwan/ Allah and his massages from every individual relegion and Books. please do justice with him, Dont blindly accept any nashwar thing as a Creater of Universe, Try to go in depth of your individual most respected books- either Quran/ Vedas/ Puranas Or Bible, and then see...

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  73. do u obey sri sri ravi shankar the spritual guru of india????..........he has written in his book that muhammad is kalki avatar.............i thnik he is more knowledegeable than u my brother..........dont misguide people......we need united people irespective of races ,creeds, notions, colours e.tc

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  74. I want to put some light on a fact that at the time of birth of Muhammad (SAW) the Arab was divided in Kabila (who worship the idols) and just around the Arabs two most powerful religions in the form of empire were ruling, and those were Jews and Catholics, in the region of Rom, Israel (was Known as Sham) and Habsha .
    And further near Mecca & Medina there were few Kabilas of Jews also, were known as banu nazir, Banu Kuraida, Banu Kainka, Banu kanana, who had migrated from their original city of Sham (Israel) to Arab, and the reason behind their immigration was that they had read in their religion Books (Tawrat) that a last prophet will take birth in Arab whose name will be Mohammad Or Ahmad, So, These Jew Kabilas came to Arab and start waiting for the appearance of last Prophet (same as we see our hindu brothers are still waiting for Kalki), and also they were expecting that he may take birth in Jews,
    But when these Jews found that Kalki has took birth in Quraish in Mecca City and not in Jews then it became very panic for them. and even after ensuring the fact that Mohammad (SAW) has took birth as a last Prophet and also he has all signs and qualities that of last prophet mentioned in Tawrat Book, then also instead of accepting this fact they kept saying that it is not that for what we are waiting, and moreover, these Jews Kabilas became a great opponent of Prophet Muhammad(SAW) in his life when he declared his Awtar in the age of 40 yrs.
    In this way, Our Hindu brothers are playing the same role what those Jews were doing.
    Therefore this is my request to all my hindu brothers that plz. give second thought in a positive way and think again on being Muhammad as a last Awtar-kalki.
    MOIN SHAIKH

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  75. As per Bhavishya puran belonging to Sanatan Dharma (Hinduism)

    Suta Goswami said: After hearing the king’s prayers, Lord Shiva said: Let the King go to Mahakaleshwar (Ujjain). O King, the land where you are standing, that is popular by the name of Bahik (Baltic), has been polluted by the mlencchs(non-aryans). In that terrible country there no longer exists dharma. THERE WAS A MYSTIC DEMON NAMED TRIPURA(TRIPURASURA), WHOM I HAVE ALREADY BURNT TO ASHES, HE HAS COME AGAIN BY THE ORDER OF BALI. HE HAS NO ORIGIN BUT HE ACHIEVED A BENEDICTION FROM ME. HIS NAME IS MAHAMADA(MUHAMMAD) AND HIS DEEDS ARE LIKE THAT OF A GHOST. THEREFORE, O KING, YOU SHOULD NOT GO TO THIS LAND OF THE EVIL GHOST. BY MY MERCY YOUR INTELLIGENCE WILL BE PURIFIED.
    Hearing this the king came back to his country and Mahamada(Muhammad) came with them to the bank of the river Sindhu. He was expert in expanding illusion, so he said to the king very pleasingly: O great king, your god has become my servant. Just see, as he eats my remnants, so I will show you. The king became surprised when he saw this just before them. Then in ANGER KALIDASA REBUKED MAHAMADA(MUHAMMAD)“O RASCAL, YOU HAVE CREATED AN ILLUSION TO BEWILDER THE KING, I WILL KILL YOU, YOU ARE THE LOWEST..."

    THAT CITY IS KNOWN AS THEIR SITE OF PILGRIMAGE, A PLACE WHICH WAS MADINA OR FREE FROM INTOXICATION. HAVING A FORM OF A GHOST (BHUTA), THE EXPERT ILLUSIONIST MAHAMADA(MUHAMMAD) APPEARED AT NIGHT IN FRONT OF KING BHOJARAJA AND SAID: O KING, YOUR RELIGION IS OF COURSE KNOWN AS THE BEST RELIGION AMONG ALL. STILL I AM GOING TO ESTABLISH A TERRIBLE AND DEMONIAC RELIGION BY THE ORDER OF THE LORD . THE SYMPTOMS OF MY FOLLOWERS WILL BE THAT THEY FIRST OF ALL WILL CUT THEIR GENITALS, HAVE NO SHIKHA, BUT HAVING BEARD, BE WICKED, MAKE NOISE LOUDLY AND EAT EVERYTHING. THEY SHOULD EAT ANIMALS WITHOUT PERFORMING ANY RITUALS. THIS IS MY OPINION. THEY WILL PERFORM PURIFICATORY ACT WITH THE MUSALA OR A PESTLE AS YOU PURIFY YOUR THINGS WITH KUSHA. THEREFORE, THEY WILL BE KNOWN AS MUSALMAN, THE CORRUPTERS OF RELIGION. THUS THE DEMONIAC RELIGION WILL BE FOUNDED BY ME. AFTER HAVING HEARD ALL THIS THE KING CAME BACK TO HIS PALACE AND THAT GHOST(MUHAMMAD) WENT BACK TO HIS PLACE.

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  76. A VERY VERY interesting article. Logical truth -

    http://drshabbir.com/library/messiah.pdf

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  77. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YERAhzJ4sTk

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  78. Hinduism is the common name for the various faiths that developed in India from time immemorial. Sanathana Dharma rejects idol worship and polytheism. Sanathana Dharma is better than Islam. In Sanathana Dharma there is only One God. God Brahma is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. It is the only religion in the world that speaks about an omnipresent God. There is no doubt that such a God is only One. SD says that God resides in one’s heart. One who worships God thinking that God is outside him is considered a fool. Soul and Oversoul are actually one. It is due to the act of Maya that one thinks that they are separate. Rishis and Prophets break this Maya. This concept of God is better than that of Semetic religions including Islam. Islamic God is a person who resides in heaven. He is just part of a story. He is like a deity in Hinduism. Even Satan (an angel) challenges Him. This concept of God is not perfect. Brahma is not part of any story. Islam believes in heaven. But in SD heaven is not ultimate aim. The ultimate aim is salvation which is union of the soul with the Oversoul. SD believes in birth and rebirth according to one's karma. Salvation means end of birth- death-rebirth cycle. Doing good deeds intending to get a place in heaven is not the right thing. Nishkamakarma (doing good deeds without hoping any reward) is best. Enjoying sex in heaven is not the ultimate aim of the soul in Sanathana Dharma. Islam believes in dvaita. SD believes in Advaita. Dvaita only reveals one's ignorance. Killing and eating innocent creatures is not the way of spirituality. It is something that wild animals do. Sanathana Dharma preaches strict vegetarianism, Ahimsa (nonviolence), selfcontrol, restraint, no overindulgence in pleasures etc. Even the Islamic prophet is not a model in these. Thus Sanathana Dharma is far better than Islam. What all Rishis and Prophets tried to teach is Sanathana Dharma

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  79. Muslims live in an illusory world. Really, their religion suits only the ignorant Arabs. . Indian sriptures could correctly predict the birth of Moses, Jesus, Muhammed, Buddha, Nanak etc 5000 years ago. But Quran failed even to mention a single name of past Indian prophets. Still Muslims pretend that it is for the entire world

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  80. Qualifications of a prophet?!
    1) He should have at least 14 wives and somany others.
    2) He should marry a 6 year old in his fifties.
    3) He should preach polygomy.
    4) He will promise virgins in heaven.
    5) He would accept women as gifts
    6) He will have women captured as prisoners
    7) He should offer some of them to followers.

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  81. The following comment is from a musim brother for all my Muslim brothers here; though our non-muslim brothers might find it enlightening as well.
    I went briefly through all the above comments. What i understood is our non-muslim brethren have lots & lots of misunderstanding about our faith. I appreciate the Muslim brothers who are trying to clear those misunderstandings. Nevertheless, the debate seems to have no end and will never end.
    I am from kerala. The first Muslim Mosque in India was built in Kodungalloor in AD 629 in Kerala by Malik Ibn Dinar(companion of prophet Mohammed), The Mosque is called Cheraman Juma Masjid. Cheraman Perumal was a hindu king who went to mecca and converted to Islam.
    But my point is this, Keralites had sea trading relations with Romans, Chinese, Arabs etc. When first Arab merchants(who accepted Islam) came to kerala, they did not indulge in any forceful conversions. St.Thomas the disciple of Jesus(Peace be upon him had already reached Muziris(ancient sea port in kerala), around AD 69 and started his mission. At that time
    Caste system was prevalent in Kerala. Women of lower caste in kerala were not allowed to cover their breast in public. This was for visionary pleasure of the upper caste men. This custom prevailed upto some 100 years back. Those females had to pay tax according to the size of their breast.

    There was an instance when a lower caste lady protested by chopping off her boobs and giving it to the tax collectors. No wonder Swami Vivekananda said that, "Kerala is a mental Asylum".
    Keralites of different caste converted to Islam after liking the character, behaviour & dealings of those muslim merchants. There was little scope of verbal communication between them, as those Muslims spoke Arabic & Keralites spoke Malayalam. They embraced Islam as it considered all human beings to be the children of one father and mother. All stood 5 times a day for Namaaz, shoulder to shoulder irrespective of any sort of division, & even ate from the same plate as our prophet taught us. Thus Islam brought a revolution.

    We now invite non-muslims to our faith, but we majority muslims ourselves don't have the qualities of a true muslim. Although there are lots of non-muslims who had studied Quran and Hadith and converted to Islam, but the majority have understood Islam by observing our lifestyle. We won't invite a guest to our home without first tidying it up. Likewise we need to correct our lives together with our fellow muslim brothers, before we invite non-muslims to comeover. We will need to struggle with our own body & mind first, which is the foremost 'Jihad' according to Islam. This is a long process that requires 'perseverence & patience'. As Allah says in the Quran "Innallaha ma Saabireen"; Verily God is with those who are patient.

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  82. Islam is not meant for Indians. Indian spirituality is different.It is better than that we find in Islam.

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  83. http://www.scribd.com/doc/38885420/KALKI-AVTAR-in-English

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  84. Muslims doesn't say kalki is Muhammad but Hindu, Sanskrit scholarhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/38885420/KALKI-AVTAR-in-English

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  85. We are able to see in India that our hindu brothers are devided not only by different laguages/ states/ castes but also by different gods, How, U see in 1) Ayodhya Ram is worshiped
    2) Gujrat have influence of Dwarka of Krishna
    3) West Bengal side Durga Pujan is prevailing.
    4) In Maharashtra Ganpati have Craze.
    5) Towards top of India Himachal & Utterakhand is well known for Bhole Nath.
    Further, there are still another famous innumerable Gods and Goddes who are worshipped in different parts of India.
    Now the main thing is that U go and ask to any follower of any of this God U will hear the answer that each one of these Gods and Goddes is swami of Trilok, each one is greatest of all, each one is powerful of all, each one is palanhar of whole vishwa.
    So my question is that How it is possible that at a time there so many Gods & Goddes can command the whole Vishwa?
    The best and the commen answer U will hear from these Hindu peoples is that all are the RUP of each other, that's mean every one is unique also and at a time one also,
    So, it is always be a mystery that Hindu dharma (not sanatan dharma) teaches that U may adopt any one God amongst and worship it and treat it as a Swami of all universe irrespective of the same belief of other hindu members who have the different one.
    Therefore please understand that if U really believe in God, then it is a single identity and who is one and only, and the religion which preaching this fact is only Islam, don't be panic..
    In Quraan it is clearly written in Surah "Ikhlas" and "Ayat-ul-Qursi" that what is property of lets call "GOD", and these are I m summarizing here

    1) One and Only
    2) Doesn't posses body or any leaving creatures image,
    3) He is not a son/Daughter of any body.
    4) And, He doesn't have son/Daughter.
    5) there is no one other like him
    6) Who is live and for ever
    7) never sleep and never be tired
    8) every thing found in Skyes and earth is belongs to him
    9) Having knowledge by his own of what we have done and what we will.
    10) He is a origin of Every kind of knowledge
    11) And his Chair (Qursi/Sinhasan/Arsh) is such that it is holding all skyes and earths.

    So, in Hinduism is there any God/Godes who is having all properties what I explained above.

    See, if U seriously go through the above properties of God U will find that Islam is not a religion given by GOD of any specific country, or culture or a specific community, but It always speeks about the complete Vishwa, and about the welfare of all human kind, Only thing is that the understanding in proper direction.
    Finally, It is to conclude that Islam is the religion for all human kind recommended by the GOD, and also it is a last message to all of us either Muslim/Hindu/Jain/Sikh/Cathlik etc.
    and also, further there will be no satya dhrma or any religion or message will come.

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  86. this motherfuckrz trying to brain wash again,,,

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  87. Dear Muslim Brothers, Please kindly answer how can a person become a holy prophet by engaging in material activities like (marriage and sex and suggesting eating animals because of taste to our tongue). How can that prophet reveal true devotional knowledge. If you check Vedas. Vedas are revealed by sages who are purely engaged in spiritual activities not material and revealed the eternal facts. Please give answer in a positive manner this is my doubt in my mind not allegation on Islam.

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  88. Yes my brother, I will just try to answer you.
    I really respect vedas, see In every era, whenever any avtar or prophet came his first duty was to convey the true massage(Dharma) of God (one & only) to peoples/humanity, because, in Bhagwat Geeta also it is stated that whenever there is spoliation(glani) of dharma or contamination of belief (iman) right then the Avtaar has came, first to correct the belief (about God, his angels, and his holy books), and secondly to teach satya karma.
    Therefore the avatar or prophet has also another duty that to teach the humanity proper karma (amal) means lawful living of life, doing each and every aspect of life in a pure way-sanctioned by God-one & only (dharma/shastra).

    So to correct the karma/amal and to present in a lawful way to humanity the avatar who is selected by God has to commit all aspects of life by practicing all sanctioned on his own first by order from God, so that other normal people can see study and copy the same from him.

    So, every prophet has spent his life in a practicle way that to make an example towards the humanity. therefore we should not judge/understand the dharma only in spirituality. living a practical life in a secret way is the main concern of each prophet/avtaar, so that peoples can learn to live their lives in a lawful way and do their day to day activities in parallel with shastra or shariyat which is nothing but practicle aspect of Dharma, so that peoples come to know what is good (sanctioned/halal) and what is wrong (varjit/haram)through teachings and livings of prophet.

    So, just to conclude that it was prophets one of the main duties that to be a practicle example to his followers and humanity,

    There are so many verses in Quraan also which reveal that during earlier yugas, several times people have denied the prophets/Avtaars and refused to accept them Avtaar only on the basis of same doubt that how can be a man who is amongst ourself and like us and use to eat also, use to keep wife also, use to have kids also and use to go to market also can be avtaar, So, the person who is such a practicle kind can not be a avatar.

    I tried my best to your doubt, now it is your choise to take decision,

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    1. brother, your answer is not clarified my question. My intention is not to blame any religion. My question is How a person engaged in material life(sex, wealth)(samsara) can give eternal wisdom or truth?. Yes brother. a person engage in material life he will explain about good or bad things about the social life and that is compulsory for the people to do good things based on the location, community, gender. But they can't give true knowledge about the true self. If you born and believe something and following that you will die with that belief(whether you are a muslim, hindu, christian). And those are beliefs right so they seems different to each other. Where is experience?. So i want all of the people here to follow their religions and beliefs but don't think that my religion is great and what i am following is correct. If you follow beliefs absolutely you will get such kind of thought that it is 200% percent true please accept that. If you want to experience (not mean knowing and believing) the spiritual truth learn Upanishads from true guru sincerely then you will experience about spirituality and know the universal eternal facts about the (soul, universe, super soul or Brahman). you will really experience the bliss. I am requesting all Hindus(Named by west people and not following vedas, 99% now), christians, muslim....etc to learn vedas, Upanishads and experience the truth. ( I am telling the truth who ever the preacher on this earth who is telling my religion great he is completely false don't trap under his trap).

      Vedas are revealed to humans by rushis (absolute seekers and not involved in any of material activities) during there deep meditation state called tapassu.

      correct me if i am wrong.

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    2. A small question to all the islam followers... did u really read all the vedas and puranas or just some verses as interpreted by your gyani Zakir naik ???? go read them first then talk ....

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  89. Zakir Naik and his blind followers have a stupid logic. They claim that only those parts of the Hindu scriptures which match with the Koran are authentic and the remaining parts are corrupted or man made. Wow! How convenient. isn't it?

    Naik doesn't realize that the Hindu scriptures are not like bible and koran which can be read and understood by us directly. Vedic scriptures can and should be understood only by sitting at the feet of a God realized Guru.

    Naik's lies are becoming more and more difficult to tolerate now.

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    1. Mohammed is not kalki avtar ....but he was the true kalyug avater..his followers are spreading terror...sin...anarchy.... Almighty kalki will come and destroy them...in Dwapar and treta yug they were demons.... they reborn to create problems all over the world

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  90. If you are looking for a human-god like Allah in Hinduism you will find many. We call them deities. Allah is not ideal God, Muhammed is not an ideal prophet. Teaching Hindus about spirituality is like trying to sell needle in a blacksmith's shop. Hindus have a noble concept about God, deities, avatar etc. Allah has qualities of a deity, not of God. Hinduism is the only religion that speaks of an Omnipresent God. Muhammed's private life was immoral. To cover it, he was using the name of God. Muslim god is just like an irritable human being, Prophets look like frauds. (You will get a true picture of Semetic god and prophets from the Old Testament.) Muslim god discriminates against women. He enjoys human and animal sacrifice. Hinduism encourages nonviolence and vegetarianism. You look for god towards the sky, we look into our hearts. We don’t worship God, but experience God through Yoga etc. Muslim god is like a mischievous imp. Muslim concept of God is narrow. That is why they take Hindu deities for gods. Hindus have only One True God, Brahman who control all deities. God has no form. For convenience, believers worship God in some form of Trinity. Hindus do not consider Trinity as three gods, but visual manifestations of The Brahma, only for the convenience of ordinary believers. Allah is like one of the Trinity, but not like The True Brahaman, the Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient True God who does not depend on angels. Muhammed married a 6 year old girl in his fifties. It is said that she went to Muhammed’s house with toys. This act is not worthy of a true prophet. Your god only encourages it. Your people do good deeds only for reward in heaven. Heaven is like a brothel. In Islam there is no concept of Salvation. No concept of Nishkama karma, ie. Doing good deeds without hoping any reward. Sikhism and Bahai faith are better than Islam.

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  91. In one of the above blogs one of the unknown peoples has stated that "Naik doesn't realize that the Hindu scriptures are not like bible and koran which can be read and understood by us directly. Vedic scriptures can and should be understood only by sitting at the feet of a God realized Guru."
    Now what I want to say here is that for a moment U just forget about Dr Naik, and as U have stated that-"Vedic scriptures can and should be understood only by sitting at the feet of a God realized Guru." Ok, If you are aware about the fact that the first person who has put this thought about similarities betwn Muhhammad (saw..) and Kalki Awtar was a great scholar of all Vedas and he was "PANDIT VED PRAKASH UPADHYAY", he wrote a book known as "DHARMIK EKTA KI JYOT" in some where 1940, and also further his book was endorsed by another 10 scholar pandits,
    In his book first time he has proved similarities between Kalki and Muhammad (saw..), and also "Narshansa" means the "NAR" who is praised, and he translated it as "Mu-hammad" which itself means a praised one. OK,
    So, what I want you all peoples to first understand that the first work which is done on "similarities betwn Kalki and Muhammad(saw..)in this direction is first initiated by a Hindu VED Scholar Pandit itself. OK,
    Further, Dr. Zakr Naik is just presenting his work on the same logic what Pandit VedPrakash has started. Now, it ones choise that it may be accepted or not,
    Further, Dr. Zakir Naik is saying that if some portion of Hindu scriptures which doesn't match with Koran is corrupted, Now it is also his opinion, this is also some body may accept or not, no pressure, his choice.

    Moin Shaikh

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  92. Prophet Mohammed: Is He Really Predicted in the

    Bhavishya Purana?


    The Bhavishya Purana has a reference regarding someone named Mahamada, which some people are very eager to make the claim that it means Prophet Mohammed, thus saying that the Prophet is predicted in the Vedic literature. But before we come to that conclusion, with additional research, let us take a closer look to see what the full reference to Mahamada really says.

    It is explained in the Bhavishya Purana (Parva 3, Khand 3, Adhya 3, verses 5-6) that "An illiterate mleccha [foreigner] teacher will appear, Mahamada is his name, and he will give religion to his fifth-class companions." This does not describe much in regard to his life, but it does mention someone by the name of Mahamada, and what he was expected to do, which was to give his own form of religion to the lower classes of his region. Some people suggest this person to be Prophet Mohammed, and are, thus, most willing to accept that Prophet Mohammed was predicted in the Bhavishya Purana. Some Muslims then suggest that if he was predicted in this way by a Vedic text, then Hindus should all accept Mohammed and become Muslims. However, on the other hand, it would seem odd that Muslims would accept a Vedic text to try to convince Hindus to become Muslims. But if we look at the full translation of this story, they may not want to jump to the conclusion that this story represents Prophet Mohammed.

    So here is the Roman transliteration of the Sanskrit in the Bhavishya Purana, however accurate it may be (Prati Sarga: Part III, 3.3.5-27).

    [This article and more information at www.stephen-knapp.com]

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    1. They should start following Hindu religion.......... not we..

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  93. To set the scene, in this section of the Bhavishya Purana, Shri Suta Gosvami first explained that previously, in the dynasty of King Shalivahana, there were ten kings who went to the heavenly planets after ruling for over 500 years. [This gives these kings roughly 50 years of rule for each one.] Then gradually the morality declined on the planet. At that time, Bhojaraja was the tenth of the kings on the earth [who would have ruled about 450 years after King Shalivahana]. When he saw that the moral law of conduct was declining, he went to conquer all the directions of his country with ten-thousand soldiers commanded by Kalidasa. He crossed the river Sindhu [modern Indus River] going northward and conquered over the gandharas [the area of Afghanistan], mlecchas [present-day region of Turkey], shakas, Kashmiris [Kashmir and present-day Pakistan], naravas, and sathas. Crossing the Sindhu, he conquered the mlecchas in Gandhar and the shaths in Kashmir. King Bhoj grabbed their treasure and then punished them.
    [This article and more information at www.stephen-knapp.com]

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  94. dear all peoples, iwant to tell something about this.all writen in vedas ,upnishad all r correct ..we hindus r using lot of upay or methods to please god or make our life healty.we use to worship stones ,trees ,sun ,moon,birds,animals with different different ways.we called them upay or methods to clean soul or thoughts.in islam all this is banned.they think we r stupid peoples who worship all these things.every body want answer about this that why hindu or sanatam dharam peoples do yagh or pooja to worship god why.now there is too many scientificaly reasons to prove this..scientically means acoording to physics..many year back physics scientist do one experiment called double slit expermiment..and also entanglement experiment.person who knew this experiment can understand what iam telling...from these experiment scientist come to conclussion that only things which control everybody life is our thoughts.thoughts means what we think pure or unpure about other peoples.these thoughts can travell more then speed of light.this is very strange thing for all u peoples..thoughts is govern by our consiousness.consiosness can travel through our pineal gland in our head.pineal gland is semifluid type st.in double slit experment they concluded that our thoughts or imagination changes the things .means if i think something wrong about any person that something wrong will start wid that person..and also concluded that thoughts can travell nether by wave nor particle .but by any other mean which scientist still to discover.now they have done higgboson experiment for this but they fail.from all these experiment they concluded that nature does not want that we can solve this mysties..but but there is one way we can solve this mystry .what is that. that is MEDITATION.in meditation we stop our thoughts.in death also we stop our thoughts .in coma also we stop our thoughts.means if we stop our thouhts than we can see clearly what this nature is and what is god or allah.in 5 min meditation we can burn thosand person thoughts which r falling on us and creating problems for us.we can meditate by mantra ,by sielent closing our eyes.there r lot of ways to meditate which our granths tell us...by doing pooja or by puting ahuti in fire ,by summorising mantra .or by worshipping idols,we r doing nothing but doing meditation..now you people can understand why our hindu sciece is thousand year forword than normal science.by meditating we can creat people invisible called entanglement in quantum mecanics in physis...all these r there in our sanatan dharm books..this is clear cut msz for islam ,sickisam and all other religions which do not faith in these type of worship like murthi pooja etc........in gross i can tell that v can creat evey where in animal .in stone in leaf or any thing we want this is done by meditation..god is every where..there r 64 dimensions .we r living in 3 dimension.height length and width .scientist believe only 12 dimension .but our hindu granth tell about 64 dimension.we can go to 3 dimension to four by meditating.there is no other way to see god which is all around us .we can go in any dimension by meditating......if we kill any animal ,thoughts of animal during killing will effects us...because thought is very powerfull thing....this is absolute ans for stupid dr zakir and all other peoples who misunderstood hindu books. . i dont thing so that people will under stand what i have written untill they will know double slit experiment, entanglement,and meditation.and also quantum mecanics. bye

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  95. 2nd thing iwant to tel.dont v victum of all those person who dont know hinduisam..there r many person like dr zakir which misguide innocent peoples and make conversions.these peoples cram the things ,even there pages nu,but never understand what is written. for eg if i put question to them what is flower.he will only tell what is seeing outside but cant see inside consiouslly.he donnt know why flower is in symmetry.why its colour.petals ,seeds and shape is in symmetry or hormony wid nature.why god make that thing in peticular symmetry.this is not the case of flower.our dna,our body teeth gallaxy,market,music,rain music,war music,love music.every thing is in symmetry or hormony wid nature..for eg if we record sound of frog in rainy season whole night.we will see pattern is maked by that sound..why there is some pattern in everything ,we see we liten ,because god has some laungage to communicate with us that is music ,or symmetry.music is haram in islam why is this..they dont know depth of consiousness..they speak from outside.rubbish and stupid thing they told every time..if we put some sand on drum and start playing it it will make some patern and that pattern has some rules..which r gods rule.we r sourended with that rules..our every act is govern by that rules..these r very deep things...we hindus always live with that hormony of nature.real hindu always obey that rule..

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  96. Zakir Naik Proves That Allah Is a Mouse! (Based on Song of Solomon 5:16) :-o
    http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2013/01/zakir-naik-proves-that-allah-is-mouse.html

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  97. Zakir Naik Proves That Allah is a Mouse! (Based on Song of Solomon 5:16)
    http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2013/01/zakir-naik-proves-that-allah-is-mouse.html

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  98. Mouse??? Oh my lord.....the vahana of lord Ganesha.. ..... Even Hindu Gods vahanass/vehiclesshavee their own religion and millions of followers... this alone proves that muslems are just a seperate sect of Hindus..... Jai Sri Ram.....

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